Pistol Storage....

sniper22 I have one of those sefes you posted a picturs of, I bought it on sale for about $60 so. I keep my handguns unloaded w/o trigger locks :)
 
There are regs for businesses on what is considered a safe for storing guns by the govt. The govt does have "criteria" on what a safe is, though it's not listed in the Firearms Acts.

I was reading it a few months ago. I'll see if I can find it again and post it.
 
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IM_Lugger said:
sniper22 I have one of those sefes you posted a picturs of, I bought it on sale for about $60 so. I keep my handguns unloaded w/o trigger locks :)
Where the hell would you have gotten one of those safes for $60.00, because if you know of another I will take it. :eek:
 
I had a restricted business licence for over 20 years, and never saw a regulation specifying what constituted a safe for business purposes. The safe I used never received more than a passing glance during business licence inspections. Inspection report just recorded that I had a safe.
 
tiriaq said:
I had a restricted business licence for over 20 years, and never saw a regulation specifying what constituted a safe for business purposes. The safe I used never received more than a passing glance during business licence inspections. Inspection report just recorded that I had a safe.

Probably because the people doing the inspections don't have the slightest clue what to look for. Just my opinion based on "some" inspectors for other things like CSA etc. That's not to say there aren't good ones out there that know their s**t.
 
There's a process for business licence inspections. Quite detailed. An inexperienced inspector is more likely to be overly thorough than someone with more experience.
The regulations quoted above lack any definition of standards. This may not be a bad thing; standards could be set so high that compliance could be expensive to the point of being prohibitive.
Obviously one should comply with the regulations. Exceeding the letter of the regulations is probably a good idea. But it is obvious from reported incidents that compliance with the regulations is not a defence against improper storage charges being laid.
I would be particularly cautious if a firearm is stored without a locking device, with a loaded magazine beside it. It would be a good idea to have a real honest to goodness safe in this situation, rather than a fire rated document box, etc.
 
I have a question, too.

If I have a restricted handgun, and it is completely disaseembled into 20+ parts. There is no barrel in the slide, and there is no trigger in the frame. In this case, what parts do I HAVE TO KEEP IN THE SAFE? And what parts can I leave in my working area? Does the frame has to be stored in a safe? The trigger? Or what?

And I guess I don't have to lock any parts because there is no longer any "actions"?

Any answers and/or suggestions will be very much appreciated.
 
--Terry-- said:
I have a question, too.

If I have a restricted handgun, and it is completely disaseembled into 20+ parts. There is no barrel in the slide, and there is no trigger in the frame. In this case, what parts do I HAVE TO KEEP IN THE SAFE? And what parts can I leave in my working area? Does the frame has to be stored in a safe? The trigger? Or what?

And I guess I don't have to lock any parts because there is no longer any "actions"?

Any answers and/or suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Frame still must be locked as it is the part that is restricted.
 
The definition of a Safe is the legal definition in a Dictionnairy like Webster.

You don't need a safe or a cabinet to store a pistol, a trigger lock on the pistol, in a locked case (small cary case) is okay.
 
THoose mini safes that they sell at canadian tire can be found at Xs Cargo here in the lower mainland I got mine for $64 Taxes in... The Xs Cargo ones are a few inches bigger than the can tire ones.

Vince
 
IM_Lugger said:
sniper22 I have one of those sefes you posted a picturs of, I bought it on sale for about $60 so. I keep my handguns unloaded w/o trigger locks :)


WOW ... 60 bucks at CT .... darn .... it is now 89.00 ...
I'd better keep watching, I got about another week or so ....
 
Rule of thumb for locking is...

- non-restricted... one lock
- restricted... 2 locks

This can be considered a safe, trigger lock, cable lock, locked cabinet, locked closet, locked room, ect... ect...

Just a rule of thumb...
 
72mustang said:
Rule of thumb for locking is...

- non-restricted... one lock
- restricted... 2 locks

This can be considered a safe, trigger lock, cable lock, locked cabinet, locked closet, locked room, ect... ect...

Just a rule of thumb...
it may be a rule of thumb but it's not based on what the law actually requires
 
gun in safe with no trigger lock, loaded mags next to it. perfectly legal.

gun in vehicle: trigger locked, in locked case. ammo in range bag.

your simple guide to restricted firearms.
 
I have the same electronic safe as posted earlier. Mine says "Safe" right on the fuc*ing thing so I have my G17 inside with a mounted M3 light, 3 magazines loaded with 115 gr JHPs and no trigger lock.

It's my version of Chretiens "Innuit carving".
 
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