Plain vanilla Hornady Interlocks......
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Yes, and yet here's two more, both taken from moose, one at less than 20 yd, one at almost 200.
Can you tell which is which?
Ted
Republic of Alberta
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Looks exactly like bullets recovered from snow, either that or the impact velocity was under 1500 fps and shot into something soft?????
I shot a pile of 139 and 154 gr 7 mm Hornadys in my STWs, which was about as hard as you could drive them at the time. I found one 139 and no 154s, everything else exited. Oddly, this last barrel doesn't shoot them well so I've moved on.
Ross Seifried once described the Interlock as the cheapest premium bullet on the market, which I thought must be a step up from the best conventional bullet. I think he placed it on the correct side of the line.
Ross Seifried once described the Interlock as the cheapest premium bullet on the market, which I thought must be a step up from the best conventional bullet. I think he placed it on the correct side of the line.
As posted above, this Speer 9.3 didn't slip.
Ted
from my moose in 07. One from 140yds thru both shoulder blades and the other at ten feet. The larger one you can see the core has slipped but no come been shed yet. Oh yeah, the moose is dead.
And the 165gr SP that went thru the noggin at 200+yds.
Various 154gr 7mms from this fall alone.
L to R Back row:
Core from Christy's Cow Elk, bullet that went hit the shoulder on my bull Elk and then the spine(core shed, and another that went thru both shoulders of Christy's Elk.
Front row, another from both shoulders of Christy's Elk and then one that went thru both shoulders of a NT sheep.
At the other end of the spectrum, here is a 300gr 375 cal RN after going thru the head of a steer point blank from my 38-55. That is the one on the right, left one was a penetration shot on wood, same load but shooting with the wood grain, not across.
....still work.
As much as I am a great fan of Speer Hot Cor bullets, there's no denying that Hornady still has a good bullet as well.
I think there was a thread here recently, concerned about problems with the Hornady Interlocks
Here's one taken form a moose my good friend shot this fall.
225 gr in .338 Winchester Magnum, 2800 fps muzzle velocity, one shot at 45 yd, DRT, retained weight 198 gr.
Ted
Well Ted, I got attracted to your post concerning these good old stand by me bullets. Couldn't be bothered with all the stuff in between and all the pics. But yes, my experience shows that those old cheapo bullets do the job as far as putting meat in the freezer. Nothing has ever walked away nor did I have to track with a good old cheapo Interlock. As a reloader, I've been bit by the bug of always wanting to try something better. And out of the bunch that I've tried, my only drastic failure has been with a .270 Ballistic Tip.
gunrunner8
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Yes Mike, In my own opinion Hornady did lower their standards on IL by saving on copper and antimony in order to increase the sales of their IB bullets and bottom line. I had bad experiences with new IL too. The bean counters at work once again. I also milled down the various H bullets and found thinner jackets and less evident interlocks inside the jackets (worn dies?).... about lead cores having less antimony I am not sure but lead prices being so much cheaper than tin and antimony there is only one way to realize the savings....My 2c.
Perhaps you just might be overthinking stuff. I took two bulls, one with a .444 Marlin and another with a .338WM. Both dropped stone cold dead, one at 90 yds, the other at 384 yds. Both Interlocks saw complete separation of the cup and cone, but at the end of the day, I was weighing meat, not lead retention. Perhaps you might think that Hornady gets innodated with such calls as yours. My question would be "did the animal drop dead?" Should your answer be "yes" but....but....., then the last thing that you'd hear would be "click".
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Yup, I was playing around with low velocity small game loads, in this case the 270 gr Hornady @ 1200.
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Perhaps you just might be overthinking stuff. I took two bulls, one with a .444 Marlin and another with a .338WM. Both dropped stone cold dead, one at 90 yds, the other at 384 yds. Both Interlocks saw complete separation of the cup and cone, but at the end of the day, I was weighing meat, not lead retention. Perhaps you might think that Hornady gets innodated with such calls as yours. My question would be "did the animal drop dead?" Should your answer be "yes" but....but....., then the last thing that you'd hear would be "click".
At the risk of over thinking the problem, to my way of thinking a bullet that fails to hold together or one that doesn't retain its weight fails. If I can make a bullet fail, I won't use it on game because it doesn't meet my requirement of having a reasonable expectation of killing the game with a single shot from any target angle within the range limitations of the cartridge and shooter. If the core separates from the jacket, or if the core breaks, straight line penetration is compromised and the resulting wound channel is shallow or erratic. There are so many good bullets out there, I don't need to use a marginal one in the field, although they are affordable for practice.
I wanted a 220 gr load for my .30/06 and the 220 Hornady was one I tried. Based on my observation of seeing these bullets break up in snow banks, I concluded the cores are too hard and brittle and the jackets are too thin. There is no reason not to use pure lead in a jacketed bullet. Pure lead flows nicely on impact and isn't prone to breakage. There are many ways to keep the core and jacket from separating, a tapered jacket can be used to control the length of expansion, the core can be bonded, or some sort of mechanical locking devise can keep the jacket and core joined, but bonding is the only solution if the alloy core is hard. In the end I chose the 240 gr Woodleigh for my rifle which has the characteristics I prefer and I load 180 gr TSXs in my wife's rifle whose 1:12 twist won't stabilize the long 240 gr slug.
I love the hornady interlock, I use them in all my jacketed bullet rifle from 6.5x55,30-06,9.3x62,416 rigby.
They are cost effective and I can still order them. The 9.3mm interlock works just find used it on a bear and no recovered bullet to show tho
They are cost effective and I can still order them. The 9.3mm interlock works just find used it on a bear and no recovered bullet to show tho
I never recovered 9.3 bullets from any games I shot with it... were they moose or bear. I can say the tipped bullets still tend to explode under impact because I seldom find thin copper jacket shrapnels here and there (the AB) but never from a SP bullet.
I also use Hornady Interlock and a lot of Speer HC bullets with very good results in most calibers.
I also use Hornady Interlock and a lot of Speer HC bullets with very good results in most calibers.
mike shickele
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Boomer.........I couldn't have said it better myself. When a bullet breaks apart, it looses it's ability to penetrate, and I myself like exit wounds after long penetration.
Mike
mike shickele
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It appears that my issue has made it over to 24 hour campfire. Someone actually stated that the bullet failed because it hit the animal in the wrong spot..........hhhmmm??? To be absolutely cristal clear, I used to recommend Hornady Interlocks to others, because they used to hold together quite nicely; it doesn't appear that the 180gr interlock does so any more.......I no longer recomend them My plan is to keep the ones that I have, because I will soon be recieving another 30-06 that I plan to do a lot of plinking with. At this time I have not as of yet heard from Hornady regarding the package that I sent.
Mike
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