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Just sitting here with a buddy, who is an afcianado of The Battle at the Plains of Abraham.
What do you guys have for info of that battle?
Firearms, specifically French military?
 
The most common musket available for the French forces was the, 63 inches 11 pound, 1728 French Infantry Musket.
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Regiment de Bearn, Franche de la Marine
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Militia, Fusil de Chasse
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Soldiers and Militia also carried the Epee du Soldat, knives and belt axes.
 
I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of artillery the british and the french had on that battlefield?? I have never found a precise description of the canons used in that battle...
 
AAAAh the P of A

I spent my youth playing on the P of A...I lived on Grande Allée (main road access to the city main gate) so the plain were my backyard!... I since did lots of reading on the battle, Francis Parkman is one of my favorite writer, well researched and easy to read (mid/late 1800 writer). Also interesting is not only the battle itself but the whole siege which started early in the summer...the attempt at the chute Momorency (end Jul) is also an interesting episode...you can appreciate the ground quite well, there are still remnants of the local fortifications, Wolfe HQ...

Summer 2008 will be a special occasion in Qué city...400 anniversary and the following year 2009 the 250 ann of that famous battle...on both occasions you can expect historical reenacting on the P of A...I was there in 2004, the P of A make a splendid place for historical reenactment, in 04 it was the Arnold (US) invasion of 1775 reenactment...I have a few pictures I could post if interested

Aaahh the P of A
 
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JacquesT said:
I spent my youth playing on the P of A...I lived on Grande Allée (main road access to the city main gate) so the plain were my backyard!... I since did lots of reading on the battle, Francis Parkman is one of my favorite writer, well researched and easy to read (mid/late 1800 writer). Also interesting is not only the battle itself but the whole siege which started early in the summer...the attempt at the chute Momorency (end Jul) is also an interesting episode...you can appreciate the ground quite well, there are still remnants of the local fortifications, Wolfe HQ...

Summer 2008 will be a special occasion in Qué city...400 anniversary and the following year 2009 the 250 ann of that famous battle...on both occasions you can expect historical reenacting on the P of A...I was there in 2004, the P of A make a splendid place for historical reenactment, in 04 it was the Arnold (US) invasion of 1775 reenactment...I have a few pictures I could post if interested

Aaahh the P of A
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I would love to get some photos, that would be really cool.
Thanks for the replys!!
 
On the pics I was looking at the soldiers of the Compagnie Franche de la Marine mustach's. Mustachs were permitted only in the Canonniers Bombardiers de Québec elite troops. One more requirement than to be an excellent soldier to be a Canonnier Bombardier is to be 6 feet+ tall.

Steppenwolf said:
The most common musket available for the French forces was the, 63 inches 11 pound, 1728 French Infantry Musket.
17281kh9.jpg

Regiment de Bearn, Franche de la Marine
1700frenchinfantryad9.jpg


Militia, Fusil de Chasse
fusildchasse1qa2.jpg


Soldiers and Militia also carried the Epee du Soldat, knives and belt axes.
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I think the british Grenadiers had the same requirement.

It would be a big deal to have the hieght advantage when the bayonets come out. I know for sure that a few inch reach advantage in the boxing ring makes up for a lot!
 
Interesting. I lived for a couple years on Ave. Laurier, literally the Plains of Abraham were my back yard. I remember flying model airplanes there around 1958-59. It was also a great place to have a Ham Radio Station.

Aaaaah.... Nostalgia

JacquesT said:
I spent my youth playing on the P of A...I lived on Grande Allée (main road access to the city main gate) so the plain were my backyard!... I since did lots of reading on the battle, Francis Parkman is one of my favorite writer, well researched and easy to read (mid/late 1800 writer). Also interesting is not only the battle itself but the whole siege which started early in the summer...the attempt at the chute Momorency (end Jul) is also an interesting episode...you can appreciate the ground quite well, there are still remnants of the local fortifications, Wolfe HQ...

Summer 2008 will be a special occasion in Qué city...400 anniversary and the following year 2009 the 250 ann of that famous battle...on both occasions you can expect historical reenacting on the P of A...I was there in 2004, the P of A make a splendid place for historical reenactment, in 04 it was the Arnold (US) invasion of 1775 reenactment...I have a few pictures I could post if interested

Aaahh the P of A
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2009, just enough time to prepare...

Québec city in 2008 (400th ann) or 2009 (250th PofA)...there is so much to prepare for if you want to appreciate all the historical info and sites that you may have barely enough time to prepare...!!
A tim bit of info...near the Château Frontenac (big hotel defining the skyline) there is the monument dedicated to both Wolfe and Montcalm..the work for this monument started in 1827/8 and there was a ceremony of carving/chipping the first stone...the last veteran of Wolfe 's army was there, as a special guess...James Thompson!!...
Also, there is the Wolfe monument in one of the entrance to the PofA, this column is basicaly where he died...there is an old well about 25meters to the side...and a plaque that says that water was taken from the well to give to the dying general...
And so on...
A good illustrator of Québec was James Patterson Cockburn (around 1830), he was an British Artillery Officer stationned at the Citadel...he spent a lot of time making sketches of different scenes of the city...one day he sat at one end of a street the next day at the other end...lots of buidings in his sketches are easily identifiable as you walk the streets...
And so on...
 
I went to Quebec City for the first time this summer- what a beautiful and interesting city! I'll be back, and I'm looking forward to it.


JacquesT said:
Québec city in 2008 (400th ann) or 2009 (250th PofA)...there is so much to prepare for if you want to appreciate all the historical info and sites that you may have barely enough time to prepare...!!
A tim bit of info...near the Château Frontenac (big hotel defining the skyline) there is the monument dedicated to both Wolfe and Montcalm..the work for this monument started in 1827/8 and there was a ceremony of carving/chipping the first stone...the last veteran of Wolfe 's army was there, as a special guess...James Thompson!!...
Also, there is the Wolfe monument in one of the entrance to the PofA, this column is basicaly where he died...there is an old well about 25meters to the side...and a plaque that says that water was taken from the well to give to the dying general...
And so on...
A good illustrator of Québec was James Patterson Cockburn (around 1830), he was an British Artillery Officer stationned at the Citadel...he spent a lot of time making sketches of different scenes of the city...one day he sat at one end of a street the next day at the other end...lots of buidings in his sketches are easily identifiable as you walk the streets...
And so on...
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The Death of General Wolfe

Teapot said:
Whatever happened to the famous painting of the Battle or was it the surrender of Montcalm (or the death of Wolfe?) that use to hang in the National Gallery? Was it stolen or destroyed?
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If you mean this painting by Benjamin West it is still in the National Gallery of Canada
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Painting

This painting was exposed at the Canadian War Museum for the temporary exposition "Clash of Empires'' that ended last Nov. (French & Indian War /7 years War)
The Cdn Mil History magazine also had a good article about that painting and other versions of it...if I recall even the painter placed his own face on one of the character... Montcalm did not do much surrendering as he agonised and died within 24hrs of Wolfe death...
There is an interesting museum on the plain of Abraham...it is located in the old jail...almost look like a castle...there is a good audio visual production that progress through the various rooms/stations...If I recall the British fired over 40 thousands cannon ball on the city during their siege, destroying it pretty bad...the british had to spend the next winter in these ruins...that was a tough winter for that reduced garison...when spring 1760 came around they almost lost the city to the returning French/Canadian who were wintering in Montréal...we do not hear much of that second battle...I know there is an annual historical reenactment in Ste Foy , in the old burned down stone church structure...
Jacques
 
JacquesT said:
This painting was exposed at the Canadian War Museum for the temporary exposition "Clash of Empires'' that ended last Nov. (French & Indian War /7 years War)
The Cdn Mil History magazine also had a good article about that painting and other versions of it...if I recall even the painter placed his own face on one of the character... Montcalm did not do much surrendering as he agonised and died within 24hrs of Wolfe death...
There is an interesting museum on the plain of Abraham...it is located in the old jail...almost look like a castle...there is a good audio visual production that progress through the various rooms/stations...If I recall the British fired over 40 thousands cannon ball on the city during their siege, destroying it pretty bad...the british had to spend the next winter in these ruins...that was a tough winter for that reduced garison...when spring 1760 came around they almost lost the city to the returning French/Canadian who were wintering in Montréal...we do not hear much of that second battle...I know there is an annual historical reenactment in Ste Foy , in the old burned down stone church structure...
Jacques
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Last time i was back East I wanted to go to the War Museum but did not get a chance, we went to the Museum of civilization and theNational Gallery, there is not enough time during vacations
 
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