planning on selling part of my milsurp collection

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i would like some experts advice on values for the following rifles:
no. 5 jungle carbine all matching
carcano TS
swiss vertelli carbine
savage no. 4 all matching
k-98 mauser
russian mosin nagant 1935 hex receiver
No. 1 enfield sporterized
P-14 full wood

Thanks for any info
Briar
 
potentially the most valuable gun you listed is the K98 mauser, but that would depend on ALOT of factors. Is it German? Refurb or original? Pics and descriptions of the condition, level or matching numbers and bore would help immensely on all these if you are looking for sale advice.
 
Let me be the first to say - it depends on condition, specific model and many other things. Not to be a smartass, but without more info here are my estimates:

no. 5 jungle carbine all matching - $300-400
carcano TS - $100-200
swiss vertelli carbine - $50 - $1000 I bet it's a sportered Long Rifle hence the low end
savage no. 4 all matching - $300-400
k-98 mauser - $300-2000
russian mosin nagant 1935 hex receiver - $150-300
No. 1 enfield sporterized - $50-75
P-14 full wood - $200-350
 
I mostly agree with Andy, though in the unlikely even you have a matching P14 in nice condition that still has the volley sights and has not been through a Weedon Repair Standards rebuild, it could be worth more like $700+ but I doubt that's what you have.

The Savage could also be worht more if it were still in the cosmolene and totally unissued - which I doubt it is or you would have said so.

non-sporterized K-98's can go as low as around $250 for a totally mismatched yugo refurb with scrubbed markings and the yugo crest on the receiver to $2000 for an impeccably provenanced matching vet bringback from the right maker and the right year. It could even be worth $5000+ for the right kind of original sniper rifle.
 
No.5 looks about good condition, maybe $300. Carcano appears respectable, but there isn't a whole lot of demand, $125. Savage good, maybe $275. Sported SMLE, $75, maybe a bit more if there is a reason why it should be a restoration candidate. Vetterli is beyond me; don't think it is a sported long rifle. P-14 has had its stock altered at the grip. This would really hurt value, maybe $150 - $200. Look at www.tradeexcanada.com to see what similar 91/30s retail for. K98k - the sandblasted band seems familiar. Have you posted photos previously? Again, very specific information would be needed.
Just noticed that the Savage appears to be a Mk.I, not the more common Mk.I*.
 
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We three seem to be essentially in violent agreement on price ranges, need for more info, better pics, etc.

As for the Vetterli Carbine, it's a sporter. I have one very similar, even down to the checkering, and mine is just a pretty well done sporter of a M1881 rifle (although mine has the barrel lopped off at the wood as it should be). Yours does not look like any carbine I'm aware of, and has distinct features leading me to believe it's a sporter (band locations, front sight, etc.).

Taken from somewhere I can't remember:

There are essentially three types of Vetterli carbines: 1) the Calvary Carbine, 2) The Border Guard Carbine, and 3) the Model 69-71 converted carbine.

The Calvary Carbine is easily spotted as it has a fairly unique muzzle band
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and has a carbine style sight.
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Calvary Carbines were newly manufactured and have serial numbers in the 1-3800 range

There were only 400 Border Guard Carbines produced. And they were newly constructed rather than converted, as such, their serial numbers range from 1 to 400. Border Guard Carbines also have the same carbine sights as those pictured above.
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I'm not sure how many Model 1869-71 Converted carbines were produced, but they seem to be the most common carbine variant seen. They were intended for the Swiss Border Guards, but there is no record of them actually be issued. They can be distinguished by the fact that they are the only Vetterlis with front sights attached to the muzzle band rather than the barrel.

Converted will have rifle style rear sights and high serial numbers. The front sight seems to be the only way to positively ID these carbines.
 
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thanks for the info Guys all these rifles are open to offers and i will be selling them asap .
thanks agian
 
I dig the groove of that Swiss sporter, and I'm strictly a milsurp guy...What would be a fair price to offer Mr. Gunner?
 
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