Plastic 870 Trigger Group... WTF ??

Remington's being cheap because consumers want cheap guns, if Remington still wants to pump out affordable Rem 870 to the younger generations, who would otherwise grab Norincos or other cheap alternatives in a heart beat, then this is their only way to do it.

So if you want something to your taste, then do the research ahead of time, have a good look at the gun before you buy it, and be willing to pay the $$ that comes with quality.

For me, I bought a 870 Police magnum and couldn't be happier.
 
Normark, don't you see the irony here? :p You make your living selling plastic knife sheaths... You are convinced that these newer materials are tougher, stronger, longer lasting and just plain better than traditional materials... But you can't apply the same forwards thinking to a different application. Yes I know that leather and metal are different, but just open up you mind and give the new (well not really new, Remington has been using composite material in 870 trigger guards for years without problems) trigger guard a chance. They're tougher than you think. Just like kydex. ;)
 
I saw the plastic trigger assembly on my 870 XCS and thought "huh, pretty smart way to increase the rustproofness!" After two seasons of bellycrawling through mud to jumpshoot birds it has never failed (despite ungodly amounts of mud jammed in there) and I haven't even noticed a scratch.
Funny how the same thing can be seen so differently by two people... :)
 
Hey Guys..
kruasb..

LOL Yaa I seen it,, and struggling with it.... LOL

I'll warm up to it,, just has to prove itself to me...

I'm a little less pissed about it then when I started the thread,, reassurances help,, but still have to find out for myself, you know how I am....

Metal trigger group still going into it though.. I'll swap it out with one of my knock around field guns for awhile...

I'm backing off my stance on it a little until I use it a little more...

Thanks

Eric
O/ST
 
He Normark,

If you are going through with it, buy two metal ones and play "smashy-smashy" with both and we'll see which stands up better. Post the results.

As for the TI trigger group...I would buy one in a heartbeat as well. Letter sent to Remmingon. You can always hope...
 
I had a similar but perhaps less surprised reaction to finding my first plastic trigger guard on a Remington.

It's not that the plastic trigger guard won't do the job as much as it being another example of Remington cutting corners to meet the market demand for cheap over quality products.

And it's only one example. I've owned 870's made between the early 70s right up to 2003 and the declining quality of these guns isn't hard to detect. It is as bad with the semi-autos if not worse. :(
 
I have handled the 10/22 plastic trigger group and the owned a newer 870MM with a plastic with a plastic trigger group. I must say I prefer the plastic over the pot metal alloys. I'd bet dollars to donuts they are more durable, and small dings/scratches would be less noticeable.
 
Polyethylene is the plastic that is used for shopping bags and milk jugs. With proper engineering and manufacturing it is also used for body armor and replacement hip or knee joints.

Plastic is a pretty general term for a very versatile group of materials. The real question is whether Remington did the proper research/design and QA when designing the new trigger group. Are there any actual problems with the plastic trigger groups?
 
I don't mind so much technological advancements as I mind losing the nostalgia and craftsmanship from days of yore. And the fact that these "advancements" aren't so much a step forward as they are a cheaper production alternative.

I'm good with certain firearm components being made of polymer to a point. Many parts I just don't agree being made of plastic, especially fire control components, period. Like I said once before, won't take long before you'll be able to buy these guns at the Five and Dime, or in today's plastic terms, your Dollar Store.

Some of us old farts are die hard when it comes to changing old proven ways for cost cutting methods, but even more expensive and supposedly better quality componets fall apart just as bad these days.

I have a fondness for 1911s. I can't imagine building a 1911 meant as a heirloom with plastic componets. So many things wrong with just the thought of that.

I'll stick to my nostalgic, all metal guns for as long as I can, thank you very much. If nothing else, they'll remind me of better days gone by. Someone younger, would opine differently I'm sure.
 
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easy said:
these "advancements" aren't so much a step forward as they are a cheaper production alternative.
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You are equating cost with quality. In this case it seems, unless you can find an example of a trigger failure or other real world problem, you're wrong. Keeping the quality/functionality the same (of better) while reducing production costs is indeed a step forward.
 
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