Please explain the CZ in 5.56

Well, I guess I'm still a bit confused.

The Vz, Ak, Ar platforms were all designed as battle rifles.

Not sniper rifles.

The Vz platform is a super simple, cheap and reliable design. That's great for getting shooters up to speed fast. The 7.62x 39 round is a hard hitting big bullet that will not be deflected by twigs and leaves.

The Ar/M-16 platform is an expensive, ridiculous design that uses the fouled gasses ,hitting all of the important parts of the rifle, to cycle the action.
This is just one of the many design flaws of this platform.
The design flaws combined with the super fast but teeny tiny round, make the AR one of my least favorite platforms.

The 5.56 is a bad battle round in a complicated band aid covered battle rifle.

In my opinion putting the 5.56 through a Vz/CZ is cutting a good platform off at the knees.
 
mlehtovaara said:
I think its pretty hilarious you only consider the battle effectiveness considering no one in canada will ever be in a fire fight with one!

As far as price is concerned it is all about corrosive vs. Non corrosive ammo! Cleaning is a must in southern Ontario or Coastal climates due to humidity and I hate worrying about corrosion!

Also when the mag adapters come out 10 rounds will be legal with the LAR mags!
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Thats exactly why I switched my RA XCR from 7.62 to .223, cause I didn't like the corrosive stuff outdoors, and couldn't shoot it indoors.
 
Too bad about NB shooting restrictions... thats one beauty of living up here in the far North. It might be cold up here, but you can shoot what you what, when you want, where you want.
 
tjhaile said:
Neck the 7.62x45 down to 7mm and you would have perfection if somebody were to make a rifle sized for it. It doesn't quite make it into fitting the AR15/M16 platform.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19936

Notwithstanding logistics, 6.8 SPC is the best overall performer given the limitations of existing 5.56mm platforms.

Given the types of ammo most commonly shot by recreational shooters through 5.56 and 7.62x39 rifles, any discussion of terminal ballistics is academic.

Another thing that warrants mentioning is that if you want to take advantage of the potential of the 7.62x39, you will have to find reloadable brass, which isn't as cheap/easy as .223.
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Yep neck it down to anything between 6 - 7mm and you would have one hell of a round. Like I said its too bad there is no source of reloadable brass out there.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Southern Ontario deer season is shotgun only!
Varmint hunting is restricted to under .275 caliber in most places!
Pretty retarded if you ask me when calibers like 204 ruger shoot so flat and fast anyways.
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Not entirely true. If you read the fine print, many areas banned the use of over .275 caliber while deer hunting. When shotguns only came in many years back a lot of this was disregarded. Most areas still allow the discharge of larger calibers outside of deer hunting but you need to read up carefully.
 
I have another reason why CZ in 5.56 is a good idea. CONVERSION KIT. Read this excerpt from CSA website:

Czech Small Arms (C.S.A.) is the only manufacturer of Sa vz.58 rifles and Sa vz.61 Scorpions. The factory, located in Jablunka, Czech Republic, continues to produce these legendary firearms for distributors in North America and in Europe. Originaly produced by CZ UB, Sa vz. 58 rifles and Sa vz. 61 Scorpions are currently produced only by Czech Small Arms. If you currently have a vz. 58 rifle or a vz. 61 Scorpion, most likely your firearm was built at our factory or from parts manufactured in our factory - regardless of the name engraved on the firearm.

Czech Small Arms is currently producing the vz.58 and vz.61 in calibers that has never been produced by any other small arms manufacturer. The growing popularity of the vz.58 and vz.61 has lead to this expansion of calibers. The vz.58 is now offered in 5.56 NATO and in .222 Remington while the Scorpion is available in 9 mm P.A. Knall and 9 mm P.A. Rubber. In addition, the Scorpion is in the final development phase for the 9mm Browning cartridge (.380 ACP). The vz. 58 family will also be richer in next few months as development of .22 long rifle conversion kit is in its final stage.

A high degree of quality assurance is found throughout each level of vz.58 and vz.61 production. From testing of raw material, to CNC machining, to the refinishing of firearms, every step of production exhibits extreme attention to detail. The objective of C.S.A. is to produce high quality firearms with a continued emphasis on innovation.
 
Since when has an abundance of choice been a bad thing?:confused:

To the OP: Why neuter Canadian gun owners, by limiting our choices?:wave:

I will welcome with open arms, ANY rifle of this type, in ANY caliber that works, that comes to the Canadian market.

And, I can definitely see myself adding a "Czech poodle-shooter" or two to my collection some day.:ar15:
 
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