Please help me make the right decision.Lyman or rcbs sizer

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Hi, what brand of lubisizer do you guys use.Pan lubing is too slow for my needs, i want something more efficient.Some have heating element, do i need one ? I will be seating gas checks, do i need a special tool or adapter.Can i use nose punch and sizing dies sold for the Lyman 4500 in the 450 ?

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I have an RCBS lube-a-matic 2 or whatever with no heater and got a Lyman 4500 a few months ago. All the dies and top punches are interchangeable. I haven't used the RCBS since I got the 4500. I use an actual ratchet for the Lyman as opposed to the tool it shipped with, which broke after about 6000 bullets. It is far better than the RCBS system for compressing the lube. I ordered my stuff from Natchez simply for the fact I had about $800 of stuff I wanted and they had pretty much everything in stock.

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They are both the same from all that i can tell. i went with the lyman 4500 because the place had stock but i wish i went with RCBS for their awesome warranty that get's a new thread started ever other week in the reloading section.

the die's (H&I) and top punches are interchangeable between the lubesizers like coreyd mentioned above. the lyman uses a stick type heater that came with mine but i don't really use it. The heater will depend on how hard of a lube you use and or where your lubesizer is (unheated garage vs house etc). If i find the lube moving a bit slow i just take a propane torch and heat up the body of the lubesizer which gets things going.

If you get the lyman it uses very fine threads on the die nut (holds the die in place) so be careful when installing the nut that you don't cross thread it. also the lyman comes with a gas check seating tool, not sure if the rcbs does.

What are you casting for?
 
What are you casting for?[/QUOTE]

I cast heavy 444 marlin, heavy 44 mag, 30-30, 357 mag.

For my light 38 and 9 mm i tumbled lube with the 45-45-10 mix.

Since i already use 2 Lymnan press, i think i will buy the 4500 with the heater.
 
the only lube i use in mine is ben's red, it's on the tacky side which is why i added some extra beeswax. I haven't had any leading from it for the 4-5 years i've been casting. I made 2 batches and haven't even gone through a half of one batch yet. here is a thread to the guy who made it, http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?166254-Made-more-Ben-s-Red-today

i was going to make a mold so i can just drop sticks into the lubesizer but instead just use an old tin can and heat it up with a propane torch and pour it into the lubesizer.
 
I have 3 Lyman's and an RCBS. Don't see much difference. I bought the Lyman heater plate for my Lyman as I use a lot of Dragon Lube red. Could also be used with the RCBS. All dies and top punches are interchangeable.
 
You could use just about any heater element as long as you can strap it to the base of the lubesizer. What am planning in doing at some point is make another pid temp controller so I can dial in the exact tempature I want for what ever lube I use.
 
if your looking at efficiency and ease of use take a good look at the magma star lube sizer.
unlike the lyman and RCBS the star sizes nose down and is a pass though so you only need one top punch per diameter bullet and no need for several nose punches.
used the lyman, RCBS and by far i like my star more.
the sizers will seat the gas check as the bullet is passed in the sizer, same for lyman, rcbs and star.
you can even upgrade by adding feeder kits and more.

here is one that has been fully automated.
 
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The one that you can find for much less than retail. I like my Lyman 4500 but if I had to pay $200 for one I would still be tumble lubing. Fortunately I stumbled into an auction that had two Lyman 450s and a 4500 up for grabls. The 450s went for $18 each and I picked up the 4500 for $35. Hunt around gun shops, auctions etc until you find one for sale on the cheap.
 
RCBS has a much better warranty than Lyman. I have had both and prefer the RCBS. For bulk sizing the Star is unbeatable. For accurate rifle bullets, especially long range shooting I prefer the Redding-Saeco-Cramer sizer because of better Alignment design of the tool.
 
I use both the Lube-a-matic 2 and the Lyman 4500. Very little difference, but I seem to use the Lyman more. The integral heater on the 4500 is a nice feature - if you buy a Lyman make sure you order the lubesizer with the heater or it will cost you a lot more to order separately. As someone already mentioned - get a ratchet and socket to replace the ratcheting wrench that comes with the 4500.
 
I have rcbs and a saeco,the saeco is far better the dies are better,the built in gas check seater is great the die has a step at the top that lets you seat gas checks square,I would not take two of the others for my saeco.I load gas check bullets for rifles and sillouette hand guns.
 
I have a Lyman 450 (with accessory heater) that I boughtin the late 80's. I used it for years for both handgun and rifle bullets. However, once Lee came out with their liquid tumble lube and push through dies I pretty much abandoned the 450. Now I only use it for higher velocity bullets that prefer a harder, less smoky lube, handgun bullets that need a gas check or bullets that require an odd diameter sizing die (Lee's diameters are somewhat limited). As the bulk of my lubing is target velocity handgun bullets I seldom use the 450. I can tumble lube 500 bullets in a few minutes as compared to the several seconds per bullet in the 450. YMMV.
 
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