Please help value this Winchester 94 made in 1905--PICS UP post#10 & #26

c-fbmi said:
halfdar...........I have been a collector for some time now and what your buddy has is a very common rifle in good condition. The pictures leave some points uncovered but it appears to be very good. This rifle would value between 600-750 dollars from what can be seen in the photos. Don't let others tell you it's worth a fortune because they just are not, they are too common in this cartridge...........in this condition in 25-35 is a whole different ballgame, but it's in 30 WCF, the most common of all.
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This is pretty close to what I think as well, though I'll caveat it that I have not seen the butt plate or a clear picture of there the wood meets the receiver to ensure it's not been refinished.

At my local gun store, I think it would be listed around $850 or so.

Sad but true that you could put a regular tangent sight off another 94 on that gun without much affect the value and that leaf sight would sell for about $200USD by itself on e-bay.
 
c-fbmi said:
halfdar...........I have been a collector for some time now and what your buddy has is a very common rifle in good condition. The pictures leave some points uncovered but it appears to be very good. This rifle would value between 600-750 dollars from what can be seen in the photos. Don't let others tell you it's worth a fortune because they just are not, they are too common in this cartridge...........in this condition in 25-35 is a whole different ballgame, but it's in 30 WCF, the most common of all.
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It is a common rifle in VERY GOOD condition. Grey guns of a similar vintage sell for $600 to $750. This rifle has a much higher percentage of finish and has not been dicked with from what I can see. I have been into Winchesters for 30 years and that is a $1200 rifle all day long. An 80% rifle is worth nearly double what a 30% rifle is and a 95% rifle is worth three to four times what a 30% rifle is. That is what I have seen over the years for value. If the OP's friend wants to sell it for $750 I would be a buyer any time.
 
Mike Webb said:
It is a common rifle in VERY GOOD condition. Grey guns of a similar vintage sell for $600 to $750. This rifle has a much higher percentage of finish and has not been dicked with from what I can see. I have been into Winchesters for 30 years and that is a $1200 rifle all day long. An 80% rifle is worth nearly double what a 30% rifle is and a 95% rifle is worth three to four times what a 30% rifle is. That is what I have seen over the years for value. If the OP's friend wants to sell it for $750 I would be a buyer any time.
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MW.......you and I almost always agree within 50 bucks or so on old Winchesters, but we seem to be a lot more apart on this one. I bought a 32-40 in almost as good condition at a show last year for $1000 and thought he was a hundred high but paid the price anyway......we all know that a 32-40 brings a solid 250 bucks more than a 30 WCF. I also bought a nice 32 Spl for 800 bucks late last fall, again similar condition to the one in the photos. Either these things are going up like crazy and I'm out of touch, or I think you're quite a bit high
 
Superbrad said:
Interesting point and have seen members her make money that way..... Is parting out better than selling whole?....
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Parting out is never the answer. I know a lot of guys do it and I've been known to do it way back when I first started to collect Savages way back when but I've since realised that a lot of the old guns we have here in Canada find their way back to the U.S. due to the collector value and the all mighty dollar that in a few years our old guns will keep climbing worth value in Canada because you won't be able to find them anymore. And with internet sites like IrunGuns sending them to the U.S. it won't be long before even a Win 94 in 30-30 is going to go through the roof here, you can already see the prices climbing.
 
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H4831 said:
I wondered why the first pictures never showed the left side of the receiver!
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I wasn't really sure what to shoot and what to ignore when the images were taken. What would be critical and what would be superfluous. I do not know anything about antique valuation, so I suspect the offered images are sparse and incomplete.

I'll do better next time.
 
halfdar said:
I wasn't really sure what to shoot and what to ignore when the images were taken. What would be critical and what would be superfluous. I do not know anything about antique valuation, so I suspect the offered images are sparse and incomplete.

I'll do better next time.
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Well, it appears like the tang is broken, with a piece missing.
We need a close up of the left side of the receiver, showing this black hole, that appears to be part of the tang missing.
Also, there should be a sharp, close up, of finer printing on the barrel, so it can be determined whether or not, it has been reblued.
 
H4831 said:
Well, it appears like the tang is broken, with a piece missing.
We need a close up of the left side of the receiver, showing this black hole, that appears to be part of the tang missing.
Also, there should be a sharp, close up, of finer printing on the barrel, so it can be determined whether or not, it has been reblued.
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On my monitor, it looks like a shadow from the hammer.
I could be wrong though.
 
halfdar said:
I wasn't really sure what to shoot and what to ignore when the images were taken. What would be critical and what would be superfluous. I do not know anything about antique valuation, so I suspect the offered images are sparse and incomplete.

I'll do better next time.
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Halfdar: You take much better pictures than I do! Some here on CGN really know how to take great pictures of guns showing everything in focused
correctly lit detail, you will get there! I probably won't.:( This is a beautiful rifle, great wood on that stock! Glad to see the discussion on values
that is being stirred up by this thread, it helps to teach the rest of us what to look for and how to correctly value firearms.

Over the past six months, there has been a change in how certain guns are being valued, partly because of the devaluation of the Canadian dollar,
but also because of increased interest in getting older rifles and the (somewhat) ban-proof lever action in an easily available cartridge.:)
 
Robert Nicholson said:
Halfdar: You take much better pictures than I do! Some here on CGN really know how to take great pictures of guns showing everything in focused
correctly lit detail, you will get there! I probably won't.:( This is a beautiful rifle, great wood on that stock! Glad to see the discussion on values
that is being stirred up by this thread, it helps to teach the rest of us what to look for and how to correctly value firearms.

Over the past six months, there has been a change in how certain guns are being valued, partly because of the devaluation of the Canadian dollar,
but also because of increased interest in getting older rifles and the (somewhat) ban-proof lever action in an easily available cartridge.:)
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And here we go... With the way current events seem to be heading, it would seem that your observations here are rather accurate. Once again, this thread has been humbling, especially in the way the CGN community is so ready to help, because it is so knowledgeable, reflecting the core of the type of people that are the gun culture.

It is obvious to me that the Membership are uniformly Condition Yellow. And that's a good thing.
 
Halfdar, one thing I would point out, is that these levers are likely the most scrutinized firearm in these threads.... I think you have a good one on your hands, and that is why I am willing to help you.....

But I will say that the collectors of these are amongst the most "anal" (for lack of a better word, and rightfully so) collectors......

It takes very little to devalue one, yet one that is pristine fetches a great price....

I have sold many firearms on here, but the one I got the most questions on was a pre 64 win lever 30-30....... I couldn't believe the amount of PM's I received with questions for A rifle I had priced fairly low (I thought)......

For whatever reason, these rifles hold a place in people's hearts and that is why you are seeing the scrutiny you see.....
 
Yep! What he said ^^ . I think what makes me hold the Winchester lever action in high regard is because of my father having one and then seeing
the same rifle in so many of the Western movies that were so popular during the sixties and seventies. Pure sentimental programming.
 
c-fbmi said:
MW.......you and I almost always agree within 50 bucks or so on old Winchesters, but we seem to be a lot more apart on this one. I bought a 32-40 in almost as good condition at a show last year for $1000 and thought he was a hundred high but paid the price anyway......we all know that a 32-40 brings a solid 250 bucks more than a 30 WCF. I also bought a nice 32 Spl for 800 bucks late last fall, again similar condition to the one in the photos. Either these things are going up like crazy and I'm out of touch, or I think you're quite a bit high
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I really don't think I 'm that high, c-fbmi. I think you got a couple good deals. A .32/40 in the same condition as the OP's rifle is a steal and for whatever reason(I always liked the .32 special) it is the least collectible of the 1894 calibres. Check out a few asking prices on U.S. websites, prices are going up. They aren't making any more of these. With completely grey guns going for in the neighbourhood of $650 in Canada. I think one in 80% to 85% condition should command at least $1200.
 
Superbrad said:
Halfdar, one thing I would point out, is that these levers are likely the most scrutinized firearm in these threads.... I think you have a good one on your hands, and that is why I am willing to help you.....

But I will say that the collectors of these are amongst the most "anal" (for lack of a better word, and rightfully so) collectors......

It takes very little to devalue one, yet one that is pristine fetches a great price....

I have sold many firearms on here, but the one I got the most questions on was a pre 64 win lever 30-30....... I couldn't believe the amount of PM's I received with questions for A rifle I had priced fairly low (I thought)......

For whatever reason, these rifles hold a place in people's hearts and that is why you are seeing the scrutiny you see.....
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And I am grateful for your assistance. ONe of the things I like most about firearms is the vast amount I do not know about them, so I am continually presented opportunities to learn. This is what makes it all worth the hassles that are sometimes involved with firearm ownership.

This thread has been eye-opening, that is for sure and for certain.
 
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