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[scjordan]

Need help with 2 for identification!
1. what are they?
2. wall hangers?


first.
Not much in the way of identification markings. The only marking is a number 15 stamped on the barrel.
Barrel length 52"
Caliber 75

second
No markings, ornate percussion 37" barrel, 60 or so caliber
Kentucky?

 

[tiriaq]

First one is a shotgun made using an Enfield type lock and barrel. Lots of those parts were available to Birmingham gunmakers by the late 1860s, early 1870s.

Second gun is European. I suspect smoothbore, given the absence of a rear sight. The style, mountings, lock pattern and trigger guard would suggest Central Europe, maybe Austria.

Neither is in bad shape, both would respond to gentle cleaning. Whether or not either is a shooter would require careful examination.

 

[scjordan]

Thanks Tiriaq, that would make sense (#1) because i got a couple of old shotgun cleaning rods with the first one. BGI co Patten 1892.

 

[BCRider]

That second one is particularly sweet. It's a shame that some early Bubba had their way with it. A little bit of sensitive restoration to remove and repair the "repairs" would do a lot for that one.

Both of the stocks are badly in need of some light cleaning and some boiled linseed oil to feed the old finish... what little is still left at least.