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[mike t]

Mine is 57 and was originally drilled and tapped

 

[9.3mauser]

Do not remember them coming drilled and tapped for Williams peep, just might be a refurbed!

They started factory drilling/tapping in '53 I believe (?)

 

[220]

Still think it is refurb wood edges on stock and forend look old worn plus the blueing

 

[Hakutsuru]

You would not get that here in Canada... the USA gun market is really high right now.

I didn't think the market would be THAT different other than the exchange rate. I'll refrain from giving opinions on value in the future.

Oh and I suspected reblue too, but I zoomed in on the picture and what I can see of the screw holes and barrel markings look sharp. Would definitely need more pictures to make a judgement call though.

 

[Janeau]

This is incorrect. The bean counters massacred this gun just like the M70, and I assume all winchester guns in 1964. I think it was worse for the 94 because there are more moving parts. You easily double the value being pre-64 and that's just for shooter grade guns.

Thank you for reposting the pic.

You are wrong. Only a few parts were sheet metal instead of cast part and the gun - I own many - are as functional as the other version.Pre and post worth the same thing if in the same condition but myself prefer the post 64 - better gun - closer tolerances. Wood to metal fit on pre-64 leave you wondering if it was fitted on a Monday morning.

Pre-64 have more barrel dimensions variations and most barrel rifling show machining marks that go from acceptable to rough. Pre-64 actions parts rattle in the frame and are not as closely fitted than the post 64.

With time - the 94 got better - old obsolete machinery used to make them were replaced with more modern - more precise equipment.

The only model that was butchered in my book is the 94ae with their cross bolt safety but must admit, fit and finish is better than ever on those.

No matter - 5 millions+ of 94 were made and they run from $450 to 700 in the EE and many just sit there unsold until price is reduced.

Other than in the box - new condition gun - collector value is nil. Exception a pre 1900 guns or some example of very early 1900 with special configurations.

 

[kodiakjack]

I didn't think the market would be THAT different other than the exchange rate. I'll refrain from giving opinions on value in the future.

Oh and I suspected reblue too, but I zoomed in on the picture and what I can see of the screw holes and barrel markings look sharp. Would definitely need more pictures to make a judgement call though.

You think that’s wild, check out 9mm...

Canada:

That’s 15.50 USD after exchange.


Same box of ammo state side:

With exchange that’s $79 CAD.

 

[Hakutsuru]

You think that’s wild, check out 9mm...

Canada:

That’s 15.50 USD after exchange.


Same box of ammo state side:

With exchange that’s $79 CAD.

Alls I can say is that I'm glad you guys at least got THAT going for you. So ummm, is that ammo in stock? lemme hold some of that 9mm for you

 

[guntech]

"Blue Book" prices are more accurate for the US than Canada. It isn't just the dollar difference, the market is so huge down there they pull higher prices than we can in Canada.

 

[struff55]

Unless it is new in the box sealed it is a used gun and is valued as such there is no such thing as unfired no documentation no proof . It’s a used gun condition rated as such . The one in question very much looks to be s refin $600-800$ gun

 

[ginsingjones]

You are wrong. Only a few parts were sheet metal instead of cast part and the gun - I own many - are as functional as the other version.Pre and post worth the same thing if in the same condition but myself prefer the post 64 - better gun - closer tolerances. Wood to metal fit on pre-64 leave you wondering if it was fitted on a Monday morning.

Pre-64 have more barrel dimensions variations and most barrel rifling show machining marks that go from acceptable to rough. Pre-64 actions parts rattle in the frame and are not as closely fitted than the post 64.

With time - the 94 got better - old obsolete machinery used to make them were replaced with more modern - more precise equipment.

The only model that was butchered in my book is the 94ae with their cross bolt safety but must admit, fit and finish is better than ever on those.

No matter - 5 millions+ of 94 were made and they run from $450 to 700 in the EE and many just sit there unsold until price is reduced.

Other than in the box - new condition gun - collector value is nil. Exception a pre 1900 guns or some example of very early 1900 with special configurations.

Don't forget in 1964 they started using sintered metal recievers which was probably their worst decision.

 

[MTM]

You are wrong. Only a few parts were sheet metal instead of cast part and the gun - I own many - are as functional as the other version.Pre and post worth the same thing if in the same condition but myself prefer the post 64 - better gun - closer tolerances. Wood to metal fit on pre-64 leave you wondering if it was fitted on a Monday morning.

Pre-64 have more barrel dimensions variations and most barrel rifling show machining marks that go from acceptable to rough. Pre-64 actions parts rattle in the frame and are not as closely fitted than the post 64.

With time - the 94 got better - old obsolete machinery used to make them were replaced with more modern - more precise equipment.

The only model that was butchered in my book is the 94ae with their cross bolt safety but must admit, fit and finish is better than ever on those.

No matter - 5 millions+ of 94 were made and they run from $450 to 700 in the EE and many just sit there unsold until price is reduced.

Other than in the box - new condition gun - collector value is nil. Exception a pre 1900 guns or some example of very early 1900 with special configurations.

Total opposite from my experience. The older guns are way way better. The newest Winchester’s are works of art though.

 

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