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[DCFF]

Hey all
Not an antique guy but have the chance to buy one. Nice shape but the ram rod has lost a few inches somehow.
Attached is some of the markings.
Full wood length
No price agreed upon.
Thoughts.

 

[Steppenwolf]

Photographs of the entire firearm would be beneficial.

 

[tiriaq]

Looks to be quite presentable, apart from what happened to the butt...

 

[DCFF]

Ya the butt was carved by a soldier I would imagine. 5th Michigan or Massachusetts or who knows regiment.

 

[tiriaq]

5th MD. Maryland? Was there such a unit? 1877?

 

[DCFF]

There was but in the 1700"s.

 

[caramel]

5th MD. Maryland? Was there such a unit? 1877?

Railroad strike 1877...
Between 135 and 250 men of the 5th Regiment, Maryland National Guard mustered at their armory on the corner of Fifth and Front streets.[j] Each man was equipped with full uniform, a Springfield breech loading rifle, and twenty rounds of ammunition.[15]:53 At 7:00 pm the group began its march toward Camden Station, with the intention to board a train to Cumberland.[5]:65[15]:53

Onlookers had gathered to watch the procession,[15]:52–4[k] and the soldiers were attacked on Eutaw Street by crowds throwing bricks and stones.[l] No serious damage was done, and they continued until again, on Eutaw near Camden Street, they were stopped by the crowd, who injured several with their missiles.[15]:55

The order was given and the group formed up across the entire street, from curb to curb. They fixed bayonets and advanced. Shots were fired at the troops, but they successfully moved through the crowd and into the station.[1]:138[3]:92[6]

 

[DCFF]

Railroad strike 1877...
Between 135 and 250 men of the 5th Regiment, Maryland National Guard mustered at their armory on the corner of Fifth and Front streets.[j] Each man was equipped with full uniform, a Springfield breech loading rifle, and twenty rounds of ammunition.[15]:53 At 7:00 pm the group began its march toward Camden Station, with the intention to board a train to Cumberland.[5]:65[15]:53

Onlookers had gathered to watch the procession,[15]:52–4[k] and the soldiers were attacked on Eutaw Street by crowds throwing bricks and stones.[l] No serious damage was done, and they continued until again, on Eutaw near Camden Street, they were stopped by the crowd, who injured several with their missiles.[15]:55

The order was given and the group formed up across the entire street, from curb to curb. They fixed bayonets and advanced. Shots were fired at the troops, but they successfully moved through the crowd and into the station.[1]:138[3]:92[6]

Thanks Caramel

 

[DCFF]

Any thoughts to price??

 

[caramel]

This rifle have history. JP.

 

[tiriaq]

Railroad strike 1877...
Between 135 and 250 men of the 5th Regiment, Maryland National Guard mustered at their armory on the corner of Fifth and Front streets.[j] Each man was equipped with full uniform, a Springfield breech loading rifle, and twenty rounds of ammunition.[15]:53 At 7:00 pm the group began its march toward Camden Station, with the intention to board a train to Cumberland.[5]:65[15]:53

Onlookers had gathered to watch the procession,[15]:52–4[k] and the soldiers were attacked on Eutaw Street by crowds throwing bricks and stones.[l] No serious damage was done, and they continued until again, on Eutaw near Camden Street, they were stopped by the crowd, who injured several with their missiles.[15]:55

The order was given and the group formed up across the entire street, from curb to curb. They fixed bayonets and advanced. Shots were fired at the troops, but they successfully moved through the crowd and into the station.[1]:138[3]:92[6]

This rifle have history. JP.

The article refers to the unit being armed with Springfield breechloading rifles.
This is a smoothbore muzzleloading musket.
Maybe an owner was involved in some way.

 

[fingers284]

Railroad strike 1877...
Between 135 and 250 men of the 5th Regiment, Maryland National Guard mustered at their armory on the corner of Fifth and Front streets.[j] Each man was equipped with full uniform, a Springfield breech loading rifle, and twenty rounds of ammunition.[15]:53 At 7:00 pm the group began its march toward Camden Station, with the intention to board a train to Cumberland.[5]:65[15]:53

Onlookers had gathered to watch the procession,[15]:52–4[k] and the soldiers were attacked on Eutaw Street by crowds throwing bricks and stones.[l] No serious damage was done, and they continued until again, on Eutaw near Camden Street, they were stopped by the crowd, who injured several with their missiles.[15]:55

The order was given and the group formed up across the entire street, from curb to curb. They fixed bayonets and advanced. Shots were fired at the troops, but they successfully moved through the crowd and into the station.[1]:138[3]:92[6]

Definitely not this rifle.

 

[caramel]

Fair enough. JP.

 

[DCFF]

The article refers to the unit being armed with Springfield breechloading rifles.
This is a smoothbore muzzleloading musket.
Maybe an owner was involved in some way.

No history from the owner.

 

[DCFF]

No one is willing to say a price. LOL

 

[tiriaq]

You haven't mentioned if the barrel and stock are full length, unaltered, all bands in place, or bore condition.
Can't see if there is a rear sight. Some of these .69 muskets were rifled and fitted with rifle sights.
To a collector of unaltered US martial arms, the work on the butt would be a serious detraction.
It is also part of the history of the piece, adding interest to others. I find pieces with a provenance to be more interesting than than bland generic ones. It would be worth researching the 5th Maryland before and during the Civil War.
If the musket is in intact original configuration, I would suggest value would be in excess of $500. A search of US sites should yield information about value of Model 1842 muskets.

DCFF - you give your location as Orton. Are you familiar with JayLor?

 

[tula]

I own one in the same condition with an unblemished stock. I’d place the value at around 800-1000$

 

[DCFF]

You haven't mentioned if the barrel and stock are full length, unaltered, all bands in place, or bore condition.
Can't see if there is a rear sight. Some of these .69 muskets were rifled and fitted with rifle sights.
To a collector of unaltered US martial arms, the work on the butt would be a serious detraction.
It is also part of the history of the piece, adding interest to others. I find pieces with a provenance to be more interesting than than bland generic ones. It would be worth researching the 5th Maryland before and during the Civil War.
If the musket is in intact original configuration, I would suggest value would be in excess of $500. A search of US sites should yield information about value of Model 1842 muskets.

DCFF - you give your location as Orton. Are you familiar with JayLor?

Yes everything in tact.
Yes, JayLor is 3 min from me Tiriaq