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They look like machining marks that weren't buffed out during manufacturing. I'm not any kind of 210 expert, but in general, it's unusual for commercial pistols to have marks like these. Especially Swiss pistols. Military pistols sometimes have them, but again, Swiss pistols usually don't have any kind of blemishes. Was this a modern product? I know some years ago, the 210 was being manufactured again for commercial sales. I've never seen one of the new ones, but I was wondering about the quality of finish on the newer pistols. As was written above, it certainly doesn't look re-blued. Where you often see marks of this sort are on pistols manufactured in Germany and Japan towards the end of WWII when getting the guns out the door was more important than getting them to look pretty. But again, this isn't the sort of thing you expect on a Swiss pistol. Maybe, as was written above, having a 210 with marks like this will be an interesting example.
Well, your pictures are of very poor quality.
I don't know any rebluing process causing this type of marks.
At the safety lever location, white "S" and red "F" look very original, when reblued, these letters are black.
As I can see, these are machine marks produce may be a Monday morning after a Sunday "Beer Fest" or a Friday afternoon and quality control dept. don't see that or let it go as it.
Normally, we will never seen these kind of imperfections on a commercial SIG, BUT, for a military SIG, may be it's a rush on production, and SIG ask for a minimum of inspection on pistol exterior finish., as soon pistol is tight without any "cling & clang" and shot well.
All scharps edges are very scharps, so, we can't see any trace of buffing there.
Crest and lettering on the slide seem very scharps and clear, no fading there, but pics. are very poor.
Money collectors always check for money with defects, may be it's a good idea to keep in a collection a pistol with this kind of defects from SIG, a Company with a SUPER REPUTATION.
How come quality control dept. let go this pistol with these machine marks?
For me, this is a mistery.
if you think my pic is poor quality,you can post some good quality one,because you sold it to me!and you told me if I think it's refinished can 100% return it!but when I got it and confirm from p210 collectors you change what you said!I don't think you are good honest seller!just leave to all the CGN'ER to see what did you sell to me!!!very funny answer on the "s" and "f",the gun can be refinished in this condition,refinished the "s" and "f" it's much more easy ok!!!asnd who told you for a military SIG, may be it's a rush on production!you can not tell me what is the black mark,so find this kind excuse to me all to all the people here?......and all the p210 collectors know that the p210's slide is easy to keep like new,only the frame part is difficult to keep it!but I think you don't know that much!last I will tell all the CGN'ER here be very careful to buy the gun from some people even he got very high rate!and I will 100% request to get it return!
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More cgn drama, maybe a certain cgn dealer is turning into another K1llerCane?
I would not be happy with that finnish and would want to return that for another that would inspected prior to being shipped out. If they are not willing to exchange I would hope you paid with a credit card and I would cancel the charges and go from there. Good luck.
Ive never seen a P210 with that kind of finishing. The P210 are usually finished to very exacting specifications. I don't think it left the factory that way.
In regards to yours specifically, if you knew about this condition prior to purchasing, i'd say you're SOL, however, if the dealer gave you an option for a 100% refund if you were not satisfied, then I would certainly request it.
I know I wouldn't be happy if I was the buyer, unless I got it it for a price that reflected the poor finish.
Also, the dealer in question seems to be using this thread to justify why he wont refund your $$$. Most of what he is saying wouldn't fly with me. If the condition was not disclosed prior to sale... I would demand a refund ASAP.
In regards to yours specifically, if you knew about this condition prior to purchasing, i'd say you're SOL, however, if the dealer gave you an option for a 100% refund if you were not satisfied, then I would certainly request it.
I know I wouldn't be happy if I was the buyer, unless I got it it for a price that reflected the poor finish.
Also, the dealer in question seems to be using this thread to justify why he wont refund your $$$. Most of what he is saying wouldn't fly with me. If the condition was not disclosed prior to sale... I would demand a refund ASAP.
last week when I got the gun I pm the seller ask him about the black mark!he just said fell free to return it, 2 other customers are greatly interested ti buy it at higher price,I told him if I confirm it's refinished I will return it!because I specially collect this model,so I know some p210 collectors,I sent them the pics,all the answer is not normal,because the Swiss place very high pride in their quality of workmanship.and they never seen something like that!and the "p" stamp won't be shallow like that!because the "p" means the swiss army sold this gun to private market,and they stamp it!that will be deep,and the colour inside the "p" is different to the frame!every people can compare the pics I posted,can easy to find this one only show half "p" and the colour is same to the frame!that means some one polished it first and then did the finished it again,that's why the "p"is shallow like that and the colour is same to the frame!so after I confirm it's refinished,I called the seller ask him to return it to me,he change what he said before!!!he said will charge me 25% restocking fee!I ask him why,he said that's the onlky way can return it,and just CUT THE PHONE AND TURN OFF THE PHONE!!!VERY BAD ATTITUDE! I pm him again,he said let me start the thead on CGN,if some people think it's not original finish will return it to me!and now I ask him again,he just said let me return the gun to him first,when he check the gun is same condition when he sent to me he will refund to me!!that's sooooo unfair,because if I return to him first he can easy to make a story to charge me 25%restocking fee is that right? I promised him the gun I did't fired,because I have not only one p210,and some CGN'ER know how many p210 I have!so I hope some experience CGN'ER can help me here in this kind of situation what's the best way to return it!thanks for your help here!
I got to agree that the pictures arnt all that great so that does make it tougher to say, and without the pistol in hand its even tougher to say if its the original blueing. However, the blueing actually looks pretty good from what I can see so probly original? The marks are machine marks most likely from the factory, as stated in a previous post if this is a mititary pistol perhaps that run was just like that.
Tough to say without actually having the pistol in hand.
Tough to say without actually having the pistol in hand.
I'd say refinished too. The scratch from the safety is on all of the original P210s and it is always a silver line worn through the finish. If it is blue or phosphated then the gun was refinished at some time.
and the seller have no any credit,told me can feel free to return it first,second time said have to charge 25% restocking fee,now he said I have to return him the gun first and then refund it to me!every honest CGN'ER,will you trust this kind of people?and if some CGN'ER know what's the best way to return it to this kind of seller,please let me know thanks!
