Plugging an extended mag on pistols?

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I ran into a guy at the range the other day who had had nice metal extended mags for his glock so I asked him where he got them. This is where I'm looking for clarification as he got them from Aliexpress, which were designed to add capacity to unpinned mags, but he put a piece of wood in the bottom, similarly to how he hunts with his shotgun with a broomstick piece in the tube to limit it to hunting regs. Was he acting within the law or should I keep my distance the next time I see him? His mags could only hold the limited 10 here, but wanted to get the opinion of the cgn faithful.
 
The mags have to be permanently altered. Inserting a dowel to limit capacity is probably ok if the floorplates are made to be non-removable (such as a permanent adhesive) but other than that I’m thinking it’s likely not legal. If he modified extra capacity mags after they entered Canada then that’s definitely illegal.
 
I think we need to clarify what exactly he has and what he did.

I assume he had a magazine that physically has a 10 round capacity, ie a Glock single stack, and installed those +1/+2 magazine baseplates (the extended part), but modified the baseplates to not increase the capacity of the magazine.

I know extended magazine baseplates are good to go if they don't increase capacity. But I'm unsure how the Police/Crown would interpret a +1/+2 baseplate modified to +0.
 
chillyrabbit said:
I think we need to clarify what exactly he has and what he did.

I assume he had a magazine that physically has a 10 round capacity, ie a Glock single stack, and installed those +1/+2 magazine baseplates (the extended part), but modified the baseplates to not increase the capacity of the magazine.

I know extended magazine baseplates are good to go if they don't increase capacity. But I'm unsure how the Police/Crown would interpret a +1/+2 baseplate modified to +0.
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Nail on the head, think he said they were a +2, but with his piece of wood they didn't increase capacity at all, just the added weight and length for the magazines which what he wanted.
 
chillyrabbit said:
I think we need to clarify what exactly he has and what he did.

I assume he had a magazine that physically has a 10 round capacity, ie a Glock single stack, and installed those +1/+2 magazine baseplates (the extended part), but modified the baseplates to not increase the capacity of the magazine.

I know extended magazine baseplates are good to go if they don't increase capacity. But I'm unsure how the Police/Crown would interpret a +1/+2 baseplate modified to +0.
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Would have to be permanently modified, and I don't think they would accept a wooden dowel.
 
The rules can be found in the regulation.

(4) A cartridge magazine described in subsection (1) that has been altered or re-manufactured so that it is not capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be, of the type for which it was originally designed is not a prohibited device as prescribed by that subsection if the modification to the magazine cannot be easily removed and the magazine cannot be easily further altered so that it is so capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be.

(5) For the purposes of subsection (4), altering or re-manufacturing a cartridge magazine includes

(a) the indentation of its casing by forging, casting, swaging or impressing;

(b) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a steel or aluminum casing, the insertion and attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or aluminum, as the case may be, or of a similar material, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method; or

(c) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a casing made of a material other than steel or aluminum, the attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or of a material similar to that of the magazine casing, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method or by applying a permanent adhesive substance, such as a cement or an epoxy or other glue.


<https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/FullText.html>
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lerch641 said:
I've had mags in the past that a previous user JB welded a block inside on the base plate to limit the number of rounds.
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If it was steel or aluminum, you'd be good apparently. Wood, not so much. Wood just placed under a follower, definitely no. Because Canadian law makes sense. Lol

See Wendell's post for the actual firearms act regulations.
 
So if I read those regulations correctly, a plastic dowel to block a plastic bodied magazine would be kosher (assuming it is permanently attached) but wood isn't good enough?

(c) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a casing made of a material other than steel or aluminum, the attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or of a material similar to that of the magazine casing, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method or by applying a permanent adhesive substance, such as a cement or an epoxy or other glue.

And while we're on the subject, is a factory Glock magazine considered to have a plastic or a metal casing? Technically it has both, but the plastic casing encases the metal casing.. so which one counts? :p
 
Milofficer said:
So if I read those regulations correctly, a plastic dowel to block a plastic bodied magazine would be kosher (assuming it is permanently attached) but wood isn't good enough?

(c) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a casing made of a material other than steel or aluminum, the attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or of a material similar to that of the magazine casing, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method or by applying a permanent adhesive substance, such as a cement or an epoxy or other glue.

And while we're on the subject, is a factory Glock magazine considered to have a plastic or a metal casing? Technically it has both, but the plastic casing encases the metal casing.. so which one counts? :p
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I think that an extended base plate is a bit of a grey area. It's not a magazine in and of itself, so as long as it is permanently blocked to not increase capacity and used on a magazine body that cannot hold more than 10 rounds with a regular base plate you should be good. FWIW I am no lawyer lol
 
Since you're a newbie, don't believe everything said on the internet, and nor should get legal advice.

Because ultimately, its your guns at risk, not ours. You want a 100% answer, consult a firearm lawyer.
 
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