Poachers shoot last 2 White Rhino in Zambia

Videos like that never disturbed me until a cpl years ago when i got my first dog.
Now i could never hunt again. The thought of hurting an animal just makes me feel to guilty.
Yet id have no problem popping those two poachers. Go figure!
 
That just pathetic I am sure the people who did it knew exactly what they were doing. It's sad that it's come to this. All hunters and fisherman and anyone who has a soul should do everything they can to keep something similar from happening here in Canada.
 
mannymtl said:
Videos like that never disturbed me until a cpl years ago when i got my first dog.
Now i could never hunt again. The thought of hurting an animal just makes me feel to guilty.
!

The object of hunitng isn't to hurt an animal...;)
 
The report said that the horn was removed. I don't know why the horn would do anything good. But obviously the customer must be rich.
 
csmith99 said:
And so they should! Too many fine beasts are slaughtered every year needlessly for some "organic" ingredient that is being chemically mass produced world wide.

Rhino horns are said to "enhance" the male labido. Well, I don't know about all of you, but I get about 1000 emails a week from Asia telling me how I can buy pills that will do that CHEAPLY. I don't think Rhino Horn is cheap.

Kind of a moot point now, but why kill a Rhino when you can buy the Blue Pill over the net for $25, complete with a #### video (to get things started)????

JERKS! that's what they are (worse actually, but I don't want this post deleted for vulgarity). Should be banned from the planet.

my $0.02... rant over.:rockOn:

funny i feel the same way about poachers here in Canada but all they get here is a slap on the wrist or hide behind "treaty rights"
 
mannymtl said:
Videos like that never disturbed me until a cpl years ago when i got my first dog.
Now i could never hunt again. The thought of hurting an animal just makes me feel to guilty.
Yet id have no problem popping those two poachers. Go figure!

Just wondering what you had for lunch today....?
 
f**king sick
Ever been to Zambia? Those ####ers have nothing to eat if you and your family is starving it does not matter if it was the lst one, plus they reckon that RSA has lots so they'll give em some more
 
Gatehouse said:
The object of hunitng isn't to hurt an animal...;)
True. That's why we use the big calibers that only hurt the hunter.:rolleyes:
For the animal... you could say it's painless (I saw your picture with the wt.deer and the 375H&H:p)
 
Watching those elephants and hippos being taken down in that manner just about sickend me. While I support and encourage sport hunting here in North America, I've often felt differently regarding the Dark Continent. Especially, regarding non-plains game and big cats.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
I don't know about bad management. These are wild animals, and surviving 14 years in the African bush is pretty remarkable. If they chose not to breed, these aren't like cattle that can be inseminated. If you think so, go grab that bull rhino by the parts .....

I've done a lot of stupid things in my life.... and some of them were even branded as courageous... but this... I don't know:cool:
 
eltorro said:
True. That's why we use the big calibers that only hurt the hunter.:rolleyes:
For the animal... you could say it's painless (I saw your picture with the wt.deer and the 375H&H:p)

Not me...I've never hunted Whitetail:)

But really, the object of hunting isn't to hurt an animal. It's to hunt.

And if you KILL an animal, that's *one* object- not *hurting* them.
 
2bad4u2 said:
Watching those elephants and hippos being taken down in that manner just about sickend me. While I support and encourage sport hunting here in North America, I've often felt differently regarding the Dark Continent. Especially, regarding non-plains game and big cats.

I believe it is important to understand that African big game is considered a nuisance and a danger by most of the population there. If there is no dollar value put on those animals, the locals would be just as happy if they were gone. Very few Africans own a firearm that is capable of defending them from dangerous big game. Pretty tough to expect an African to support wildlife when the vegetable garden you depend on for food is invaded by a herd of elephant, or little sister is killed by a hippo when she goes to the river to get water. Therefore, if we in the west want African game to exist, we must make that game valuable to the African. One way to do that is to support legitimate sport hunting of African game. Without dollars generated by hunting, the African game would of disappeared a generation ago. Putting dollars in the pockets of the Africans is is the only way the African will understand that there is value to having these things around.
 
Gatehouse said:
Not me...I've never hunted Whitetail:)

But really, the object of hunting isn't to hurt an animal. It's to hunt.

And if you KILL an animal, that's *one* object- not *hurting* them.

I got.... I said I got your point! That's why I ... I made this joke!!:p
 
Boomer said:
I believe it is important to understand that African big game is considered a nuisance and a danger by most of the population there. If there is no dollar value put on those animals, the locals would be just as happy if they were gone. Very few Africans own a firearm that is capable of defending them from dangerous big game. Pretty tough to expect an African to support wildlife when the vegetable garden you depend on for food is invaded by a herd of elephant, or little sister is killed by a hippo when she goes to the river to get water. Therefore, if we in the west want African game to exist, we must make that game valuable to the African. One way to do that is to support legitimate sport hunting of African game. Without dollars generated by hunting, the African game would of disappeared a generation ago. Putting dollars in the pockets of the Africans is is the only way the African will understand that there is value to having these things around.


Yes, putting dollars in African pockets is what this poaching is all about. It's got nothing to do with "legitimate" African hunting.

I don't disagree with your views of the hunting but I don't believe that every African has dollar signs in their eyes seeing these animals as a source of economic prosperity.

Keep in mind, a lot of this "hunting" is on reserves or privately held land. Joe-Blow wealthy American isn't going out anywhere without proper government permits and professional guides while in limited geographical areas. The only people making money off this are the rich land owners and corrupt politicians willing to make a quick buck to exploit their dwindling national resources.
 
2bad4u2 said:
Yes, putting dollars in African pockets is what this poaching is all about. It's got nothing to do with "legitimate" African hunting.

I don't disagree with your views of the hunting but I don't believe that every African has dollar signs in their eyes seeing these animals as a source of economic prosperity.

Keep in mind, a lot of this "hunting" is on reserves or privately held land. Joe-Blow wealthy American isn't going out anywhere without proper government permits and professional guides while in limited geographical areas. The only people making money off this are the rich land owners and corrupt politicians willing to make a quick buck to exploit their dwindling national resources.

The point is that unless the poor African living in villages in agricultural areas bordered by wilderness can see an economic advantage to having populations of wild animals, the game is doomed. It's a tough sell because the Africans themselves could be starving, and the animals we would like to see protected are a real danger to them.

As for no one but the rich profiting, the people who worked in our camp, acted as our trackers, the guys who went out on night security, the skinners and butchers, the kitchen staff, the drivers, the camp crew, all these people and their families benefited from our presence there, and made far more money from us than they would of had they been working at menial jobs in the city. So that is the result of just 3 of us in a Tanzanian bush camp for 10 days, where 8 big game animals where taken. These people understand that wildlife is important to their economic welfare, and when they catch a poacher, it isn't pretty. The poacher would probably prefer to be shot - but that's Africa, and he was stealing from the folks who worked, and worked hard, in our camp.

The government made money from the license fees and trophy fees we paid, not to mention the other dozen or so fees they tend to drop on you. This money goes into programs to benefit wildlife, and prevents the resources from dwindling. Several countries in Africa have wildlife programs superior to our own, it's that important to them.
 
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