Police Sidearms

[Big JD-From the hills]

One reason they may have whent with the s&w is the interchangable backstraps, and double action only mechanizm. The sig would be too complicated for some of them to use .

 

[EC]

Edmonton Police Tactical Unit now carries Sig P226 with the DAK trigger.

 

[Colin]

My friend is a Sheriff downtown, he carries the SW 5946 without the RCMP, the CO's I have met carry a Glock 22, although a number of them have been up for sale, I don't know why.

Anyone have a good picture of the RCMP Logo on the SW?

 

[piperdown]

Sheriffs use the 5946's that the Auxiliary RCMP members had before they were disarmed. The auxiliary program is a provincial program, and therefore, the pistols were purchased and belonged to the province, not the RCMP. Need a semi auto + have a bunch collectng dust = 5946 for the Deputy Sheriff's. The guy's I have talked to seem happy with them, and I have seen a few who can use them with alot of skill.

 

[CZ Canuck]

Apparently these are the specs in the CBSA (Customs) tender:


- 9x19 mm
- Barrel length Max 4.25”
- Overall length Max 8”
- Overall height max 5.75”
- Overall width max 1.45”
- Weight max 30 oz
- Frame to by synthetic or alloy material, black matte finish
- DAO
- Trigger pull between 8 and 11lbs
- Trigger reach max 3 inches
- Trigger reach width max 1.2 inch
- Safety – internal firing pin block, no external safeties
- Each pistol to be supplied with 3 mags, minimum 13 rounds/mag
- Magazine safety disconnect required
- Mags to drop free from pistol when released and be reversible or ambidextrous
- Must have interchangeable grip inserts to accommodate small, medium and large hands
- CBSA-ASFC markings on each pistol
- Shall not be designed that when field stripping, that the trigger must be pulled to slide barrel from frame
- Must be commercially available and in production for at least 6 months (exception for adding the mag disconnect safety).
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[NAA]

Apparently these are the specs in the CBSA (Customs) tender:


- 9x19 mm
- Barrel length Max 4.25”
- Overall length Max 8”
- Overall height max 5.75”
- Overall width max 1.45”
- Weight max 30 oz
- Frame to by synthetic or alloy material, black matte finish
- DAO
- Trigger pull between 8 and 11lbs
- Trigger reach max 3 inches
- Trigger reach width max 1.2 inch
- Safety – internal firing pin block, no external safeties
- Each pistol to be supplied with 3 mags, minimum 13 rounds/mag
- Magazine safety disconnect required
- Mags to drop free from pistol when released and be reversible or ambidextrous
- Must have interchangeable grip inserts to accommodate small, medium and large hands
- CBSA-ASFC markings on each pistol
- Shall not be designed that when field stripping, that the trigger must be pulled to slide barrel from frame
- Must be commercially available and in production for at least 6 months (exception for adding the mag disconnect safety).
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Must be available in 10 years when all personel are finally trained...

 

[ghostie]

Shall not be designed that when field stripping, that the trigger must be pulled to slide barrel from frame

So much for Glock or any similar design. The M&P may be one of the few commercially produced guns that meets all these requirements.

A SIG P229 DAK might be o.k. if it was set up with a bit heavier trigger pull and a mag disconnect, except it doesn't have interchangable backstraps.

The only pistols that have interchangable backstraps that I can think of are the M&P and Walther P99. A P99 in DAO or QA (trigger too light?) with a decocker would probably meet all the requirements other than the mag disconnect (which almost no popular 9mm is going to have).

These requirements (especially the backstrap thing) really brings the competion down to - literally - a couple of designs.

If I were a CBSA agent, or a person in government who was serious about allowing our Border agents to protect themselves, I would want someone to re-jig the requirements to let the P229 DAK back in.

 

[jennis]

Instead of reinventing the wheel why not just issue the same sidearm as the RCMP...As 'anti climatic' as it may be to the CBSA

 

[Canuck44]

"Instead of reinventing the wheel why not just issue the same sidearm as the RCMP...As 'anti climatic' as it may be to the CBSA"


Then you would have a another bunch of women who can't hit the broad side of a barn with their pistols. The requirements sound like they got the same bunch of folks who wrote C 68 in the same room and told them to come up with the requirements for bids for this pistol.

I hope they get a tupperware gun, light as a feather and have to load the thing up with Ranger XTP's.

Take Care

Bob

 

[SparkyWonderDawg]

Sig 229's do have adjustible grips regular and large. Smaller hand officers use the 239.

 

[magicchip]

2006 called. It wants this thread back