Porcupine Hunting Legal or not

Doug said:
So there, blasted chipmunk, yes indeed those quills can be shot up to twenty yards by a cornered porcupine. Be very cautious if he turns his back to you, that means he is about to launch a salvo of quills.
I saw that happen once to our Walker hound named "Blossom".


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BlastingChipmunk said:
Ok.... I totally didnt get that.

What I'm talking about is the blood in your veins pushing/pulling the quills deeper into your body, I've heard it can happen. Not sure if its true or not. Guess it isn't, Still would hurt alot.

On a side note, I have read about a guy who died from a .22 to the wrist. It traveled up a vein and plugged a heart valve.


:eek: Is this for real :confused:

You must have also heard about the guy who had a eyebrow hair grow around & into his ear causing death right :D
 
popcan said:
How many Porks can a Claybuster bust, if a Claybuster could bust Porks?
On our place the record is five in one year. Once you have a dog with a face full of quills and debate the merits of struggling to take them out yourself or going to the vet and paying a hefty bill you discover a previously unknown murderous streak.:D #4 buckshot works wonders on them, a fast opening .223 is good if they are on the ground. A .270 Winchester is over kill.:eek:

Do the quills work their way into your body if you get some stuck in you? As in they start in your hand and travel to your chest. Is this true?
They can migrate inside the body. Whether they'd go that far is another question. Also because porkies wallow in their own s**t infection is a real possibility. Here's a good article on dog/porcupine encounters that mentions quill migration.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1482438
 
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I've taken them out with the 12 ga and it did a good job but the 22 rimfires are a definite NO in my book, they're to thick headed so I've been using the 23B in 25-20, solid shell for porky. I've lost about 8 or 9 good size beech tree's this year and they're starting on my sugar maples now, as well as the ####house. Come spring when I'm tapping my tree's it's gonna be a bloodbath on that lot.
 
Ok, thanks claybuster for that article.

And for those who thought i read the .22 story off the internet, I didnt.
It was in a book on terminal ballistics. Wish I could find it again.
 
Claybuster said:
On our place the record is five in one year. Once you have a dog with a face full of quills and debate the merits of struggling to take them out yourself or going to the vet and paying a hefty bill you discover a previously unknown murderous streak.:D

All kidding aside Claybuster, it seems we are fortunately a bit too high in elevation for the pokies to populate our area, [I have never seen or heard of one around here] so we don't have the problem. Badgers, skunks fishers yes.

As I look at my two puppies curled up at my feet right now, you may rest assured there would be the Mother Of All Wars against the porkers if they ever even thought about raising a quill in anger towards one of my boys.

Have you thought about bringing in Mercs?
 
Doug I will have you know that I am not a sixteen year old however I do have a sixteen year old who you may have tried to make a deal with and he does not have a snotty attitude. Just because he didn't make a deal with you doesn't make him snotty.


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hunt365 said:
I am entitled to my opinion and I have been told that porcupines are protected in Ontario. Oh and by the way they can't shoot thier quills!!!!!!!
Yes, you are entitled to your opinion but if you spread incorrect information don't become upset if you are challenged. Whoever told you porcupines were protected in Ontario was wrong but if you want to believe incorrect information you are certainly entitled. You can check for yourself with the MNR and determine the facts if you wish.

Whether they can shoot their quills depends on how you define the term "shoot." The tail of a porcupine is muscular, the quills come off its body easily and they can propel the quills quite a distance with a slinging action.
 
You are indeed correct you can hunt them in Ontario I do appologize I have been misinformed all these years. I called the MNR and they tell me that unless they are damaging your property why would you kill them?? but you can. Here is a link on Porcupines and they can not throw or shoot thier quills as I said earlier according to this site and from personal experiance!!!! http://www.nhptv.org/Natureworks/porcupine.htm
 
Hunt365 - i edited some of your comments. I understand you may feel like you were 'entitled' to get in a few shots because someone had made comments about you - but i deleted those comments already and had discussions with the posters abou them. It does NOT entitle you to attack other members here.

Pls keep the personal stuff out of it guys. This is a thread about porcupines.
 
hunt365 said:
You are indeed correct you can hunt them in Ontario I do appologize I have been misinformed all these years. I called the MNR and they tell me that unless they are damaging your property why would you kill them?? but you can. Here is a link on Porcupines and they can not throw or shoot thier quills as I said earlier according to this site and from personal experiance!!!! http://www.nhptv.org/Natureworks/porcupine.htm
If you own a woodlot as I do pretty much all a porcupine does is property damage. If you run dogs on said woodlot as I do and there are porcupines around then it's usually a matter of when, not if, an encounter occurs. If you keep livestock as I do a porcupine in a field can result in a cow or horse with a face full of quills. Horses particularly can be curious animals.

I checked your link and I am not inclined to pay much heed to the various Petafiles and granola crunchie lefties that infest Public Television in the U.S. It's almost as bad as the CBC in that regard.

On a moral equivalency scale I consider killing a porkie on the same level as kill a rat in the horse barn. Just one of those things that you need to do sometimes. I'd hardly consider it hunting in the truest sense of the word.
 
Claybuster I agree if they are doing damage kill them I have in that circumstance as well they were chewing at my cabin. I will leave them be though if I see them in my woodlot. Just personal preferance. Foxer my appologies!!!!
 
Claybuster said:
Yeah well maybe they are survival animals but I'm in Southern Ontario and at worst no more than a couple hours walk from a 7/11.

So all porkies get shot. No exceptions.

he,he

easy for me to say. No porkies up here in the north.:p

When I lived in N.S. that was a different story. Between the porcuipines and the skunks the DOT was kept pretty busy cleaning the highways.

So you guys have porcuipines like we have coyotes;)
 
Doug said:
OK, after getting my peepee slapped here, I will not go on about "YOUNGER" people and their "UNUSUAL" ideas.

So there, blasted chipmunk, yes indeed those quills can be shot up to twenty yards by a cornered porcupine. Be very cautious if he turns his back to you, that means he is about to launch a salvo of quills. They strike with about the same force as a .22 cal LR bullet, and typically penetrate about 2 inches of unprotected flesh. Once in your skin, they slowly eat their way further into your body, and travel in your bloodstream up to your brain, where they are usually fatal. Same as the .22 cal bullet that enters your wrist and travels to your brain.


Doug


Ok. I think your onto something here Doug.... Our porcupines launch quills that are aprox 2" long, which you are saying is equivilant to a 22lr, which is aprox whats required for minimum self defence in north america. When I was in africa the quills I saw were never less than 10" long, meaning that they would be equivilant to like a 458 magnum,right. Am I getting this?
 
ben hunchak said:
They can be pure hell on the dogs......I've had to dope up one of my dogs 3 times this year and pull quills from his snout...so I'm out after'em on my farm...and use them as a bullet test medium.
Isn't that like banning guns so that retards can's shoot anyone?
 
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Our porcupines launch quills that are aprox 2" long, which you are saying is equivilant to a 22lr, which is aprox whats required for minimum self defence in north america.

That's bad enough, but i saw one last week chewing a stick into the shape of a bow. That can't be a good sign. He'd have a near-endless supply of ammo. If he ever figures out how to string that f#($er I figure i'm pretty screwed. I made a little one for a test and it can penetrate 9 inches of paper at 50 yards!
 
Foxer said:
That's bad enough, but i saw one last week chewing a stick into the shape of a bow. That can't be a good sign. He'd have a near-endless supply of ammo. If he ever figures out how to string that f#($er I figure i'm pretty screwed. I made a little one for a test and it can penetrate 9 inches of paper at 50 yards!

I'm stayin in the house. not walkin near windows. keepin atleast two walls between me and the outside. watchin TV from behind an overturned table or two may be wise to.And stay movin. This fellas got the right idea :dancingbanana:
 
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