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In an attempt to find some equipment photos for the guys collecting Portuguese Mauser's, I happened across a photo of one of my cousins during his "stay" over there. He is in the 11th picture from the top in the driver's seat. Looks like a "Rat patrol" scene. Love the cross and the MG ammo belts on the guy in the back.

http://ultramar.terraweb.biz/RMM_Ilustracoes_1969_1973.htm

His daughter said he "freaked out" when he saw it, he told her the names of others on the vehicle.

The website is by and for Portuguese army Veterans.

Here is a Googlized English translation:
http://translate.google.ca/translat...web.biz/RMM_Ilustracoes_1969_1973.htm&act=url
 
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Portuguese Army has several very good Museums. They should be able to help on the camo.

Is this why so many of the poor old Krops were beaten half to death? Von Lettow-Vorbeck couldn't have wrecked ALL THOSE in only 4 years!
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Help with Portuguese 6.5x58mm M1904 Mauser-Vergueiro

I have a DWM made South African military property stamped (Arrow inside a U on top of receiver and in the wood on top of grip) 6.5x58mm M1904 Mauser-Vergueiro.
It is stamped 15 MR over 2 over M just above the crowned CR stamp on the right side of the stock, it has 93/373 stamped in the butt heal just behind the rear sling swivel as well and has UDF 15664 stamped on top of steel butt plate and NP 6.5mm 2-11" 37 GRS NC. 155 GRS on the barrel.

The bore is like new and bluing bright and is almost complete, also it is all matching with cleaning rod except for the Bolt sleeve and safety which both match themselves. Bolt may be forced matched because the serial number starts with a E prefix while the rest of the rifle parts including the stock have a F prefix. Bolt is in the white and is shiny like chrome.

This bolt is super smooth in operation, it almost opens and closes by itself with zero side to side slop.

Anybody seen a South African M1904 before or know anything about the above markings?

Any help is appreciated.
 
Angola was an ugly war, more ugly than most. Neither side pulled any punches.

They used every kind of weapon used in battle situations on earth there. Everything from spears to heavy machine guns, aircraft, light armor etc.

Africa had been the dumping ground by Europeans for decades by the time the rebellion broke out.

No one was innocent in that war, either for the reasons or creation of it.

They have declared it over several times but the civil war is always just under the radar.

Canda, in it's eternal wisdom provided 25 million dollars to build a school that taught French. Such wisdom is astounding, seeing as Bantu, Swahili and Portuguese with a little German thrown in the main basic languages. I wonder what the money really went for????
 
When Portugal sent the Portuguese Brigade (actually a Battalion) to fight on the Western front in the Great War, the Germans refused to sell them any more ammo: no sense of humour! So the logical thing happened: the Portuguese traded their Vergueiros for SMLEs and the Brits supplied them with ammo... and tin hats.... and Vickers guns...... and Lewis Guns and so forth. Portugal was very much a poor country and lacked just about everything for a modern war..... but they were willing enough to FIGHT a Britain's OLDEST ally: BEFORE the Armada.

The now-British Vergueiros were London proofed and sent to South Africa, closer to a steady supply of ammunition, especially when von Lettow-Vorbeck invaded Portuguese East after the Battle of the Bees at Tanga and the ensuing invasion of German territory by the South Arican military (with strong British backing). More Portuguse rifles would have followed when Portugal upped its single Battalion TO a Brigade, which was called the Portuguese Division.

Much fighting between SA/British/Portuguese troops and German troops ensued inside Portuguese East. When the Germans were chased out, they did the logical thing... and invaded Rhodesia! World War One actually ended, in the field, in November 25, 1918, when the Kaiserliche Schutztuppe assembled on parade in Abercorn, Rhodesia and formally surrendered their weapons. At that time, the German Army in Africa was armed largely with Lee-Enfields.

The Kaiserliche Schutztruppe's Askaris, their Black soldiers, finally received their pay in 1964, shortly after their great leader's death. He had lobbied for many years for the owed back-pay for his army.

Your rifle is Portuguese, made in Germany, and has London proofs with South African unit markings from one of their Mounted regiments of Rifles. There are at least 3 like it in Canada, of which I have seen 1 but own none. I did a piece on the first of the other rifles in the NFA Journal in 1979, so it's in there.

you have a real chunk of History there, friend. Treasure it!

Hope this helps.
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Portuguese Army has several very good Museums. They should be able to help on the camo.

Is this why so many of the poor old Krops were beaten half to death? Von Lettow-Vorbeck couldn't have wrecked ALL THOSE in only 4 years!
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Liga dos Combatentes
Museum / Memorial

Slide show tour
http://www.ligacombatentes.org.pt/upload/Banner/004.swf

Video Tour
http://www.ligacombatentes.org.pt/upload/Banner/004.swf
 
Good pics. Love the stacked 98s!

Punched up the contrast a bit

KOActf09_II.jpg
 
Here's another interesting one:
Weapons and Tactics
http://arlequinsworld.########.ca/2012/08/the-portuguese-army-in-angola.html
 
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