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momma always say stupid is as stupid does.....
Kids!
Had a good laugh at your other thread!
Why thank you
POS Remington rant
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Why thank you
One more vote for no-issues with my Remingtons. My 12 year old Model 7SS in .308 went hunting with me this year and did fine when I slid the safety "off". Man, I would be pissed though if it had gone off and scared that buck. Tuned the safety myself years ago to 2-2.25lbs and tested the hell out of it. Been fine.
hear , hear,..I'll go $100 for blue,...$125 for stainless....and you can keep the barrels....I'm waiting for the price of used 700's to tank,...then I'll load up on them....
Hey, hey Man... Quit feeding my pigeons! I'll tell ya what, we'll let the price of these death traps tank & divvy em up..... I tell ya we're providing a service to this community... Where's are metals?
Remington has become the welfare rifle of the modern day hunter. Look at some of there inovative lines and futuristic platforms 710/770
Friends don't let friends use Remington.
http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/a/aacbsnewsrem700.htm
Should of got a Sako/Tikka
Friends don't let friends use Remington.
http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/a/aacbsnewsrem700.htm
Should of got a Sako/Tikka
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- Dah Soo,ON
Remington has become the welfare rifle of the modern day hunter. Look at some of there inovative lines and futuristic platforms 710/770
Friends don't let friends use Remington.
http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/a/aacbsnewsrem700.htm
Should of got a Sako/Tikka
Ya and the savage edge, sako a7, etc isn't a cheaply made disposa-gun?
Give your head a shake and get off the anti-rem band wagon
If I had one I would just put a different trigger into it and get it checked over by a competent gunsmith. Why is that such a problem? A Timney or whatever is a big upgrade from stock anyways and a relatively cheap fix in dollar value. I know some would rather beatch than actually do something but I think most on this site are way above that. Most of us fix things either by ourselves or by means of a good smith. Am I missing something? Considering how many rifles Remington has in active circulation I find it hard to believe that there are not serious upgrades for almost all of the parts of their rifles. Then again I dont own one yet. Could change in a week tho..
applegrower
New member
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- Berwick, Nova Scotia
I hate to wade into this discussion, as I am a fan of Remington's, particularly the Model 700, 7 and the homely 8.
About seven years ago I bought a factory new Model 7 7 mm SAUM. Cleaned it, mounted a Leupold scope and killed four moose with nary a glitch over the past few years. Great gun.
Last year I gave it to my 18 year old son to watch his bear site. A bear came out, he carefully lifted the rifle up, flicked the safety off - and bang- it went off and the bear crapped himself and ran away unharmed.
I questioned him up and down and he swears he didn't touch the trigger either before he moved the safety or after. I wasn't there so I cant prove it, but he has hunted with me since he could walk and he is a safe hunter.
Believe me I tried, and I couldn't get the gun to repeat it. I stripped it apart and cleaned it thoroughly. I'm not a gunsmith, have never adjusted a trigger, and no one has ever touched the gun other than me. And I am as sure of that as I can be. Whatever was done was at the factory. I still try occasionally to make it happen. No go.
I bought my son a new 700 SPS, and me a new 700 VTR and a few more besides. I believe it was an isolated incident that could have been caused by dirt or fuzz from the case. I don't know. I didn't know there was an issue until I searched the internet after it happened to see what the cause might be. This was long before the latest CNBC BS.
So whats my point? I fully believe the original posters account of what happened, and it seems to me he got a lot of undue criticism. And I still like Remington's, especially the 700. But I'll always think about that incident when I flick the safety off and so will my son.
Regards.
About seven years ago I bought a factory new Model 7 7 mm SAUM. Cleaned it, mounted a Leupold scope and killed four moose with nary a glitch over the past few years. Great gun.
Last year I gave it to my 18 year old son to watch his bear site. A bear came out, he carefully lifted the rifle up, flicked the safety off - and bang- it went off and the bear crapped himself and ran away unharmed.
I questioned him up and down and he swears he didn't touch the trigger either before he moved the safety or after. I wasn't there so I cant prove it, but he has hunted with me since he could walk and he is a safe hunter.
Believe me I tried, and I couldn't get the gun to repeat it. I stripped it apart and cleaned it thoroughly. I'm not a gunsmith, have never adjusted a trigger, and no one has ever touched the gun other than me. And I am as sure of that as I can be. Whatever was done was at the factory. I still try occasionally to make it happen. No go.
I bought my son a new 700 SPS, and me a new 700 VTR and a few more besides. I believe it was an isolated incident that could have been caused by dirt or fuzz from the case. I don't know. I didn't know there was an issue until I searched the internet after it happened to see what the cause might be. This was long before the latest CNBC BS.
So whats my point? I fully believe the original posters account of what happened, and it seems to me he got a lot of undue criticism. And I still like Remington's, especially the 700. But I'll always think about that incident when I flick the safety off and so will my son.
Regards.
I dont really understand what all the hubub is about over these Remminton triggers anyway...
Arent you "suposed to" throw the original trigger and barrel out and replace with a CG trigger and Krieger before you shoot it anyway?
http://www.6mmbr.com/cgtrigger.html
Arent you "suposed to" throw the original trigger and barrel out and replace with a CG trigger and Krieger before you shoot it anyway?
http://www.6mmbr.com/cgtrigger.html
xring_assassin
Regular
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- Rocky Mountain House, Alberta
HAHAHAHA now there's a pile of sh*t. Tried HUNDREDS of handloads and got 5" groups at best at 100m with the one I had. Bought a remington sendero 7mm mag (because that's what the tc was chambered in) and found out 1/2" or under groups were acheived easily with dang near everything in it.
Only way a tc (allow me to say pro-hunter - maybe the bolt actions are better) would group down to 2" was if I removed the fore-end, inserted a round, closed the action - centered the hinge pin, and torqued the fore-end screws to 3inch pounds, shot, then repeated process. THAT my friend - is JUNK.
FYI - on a remington you don't flick safety off to unload at the truck - you lift the bolt and clear the chamber THEN take the safety off. AFAIK remmy is the only one doing so is possible with.
It's amazing how many "low post count" posters got on this bandwagon about this so-called "issue". Hardly ever hear from them on here, and then they are all in a hurry to slam Remington. I certainly would not say there are no faulty triggers out there from Remmy, but I have seen related issues [fire without touching the trigger] with the Winchester model 70, Savage 110 [and all on same basic platform] both pre and post accutrigger, on a personally owned Sako A1, on a Browning A-bolt. Like some other posters already said, I will buy all your "faulty" Remington rifles for $100.00 each and save you fretting over the "problem" Regards, Eagleye.
I questioned him up and down and he swears he didn't touch the trigger either before he moved the safety or after.
Believe me I tried, and I couldn't get the gun to repeat it.
In the excitement of the hunt is very possible he believes he did not touch the trigger...
Your statement proves out...
If you feel that way, how come you didn't give me a better deal on those 700's I bought from you Angus?
All joking aside, I've owned literally dozens of 700s, along with Rugers, Winchesters, Brownings, Tikkas, SAKOs and a host of others. I currently still have 8 Remington 700 rifles in my gun room, mostly heavy barrel target/tactical rifles, with the exception of my custom BDL in 7mm Rem Mag.
There is a reason why the 700 enjoyed a reputation for having the best factory trigger out of the box up until the recent trigger revolution started by Savage and their Accutrigger.
It was a strong, well designed trigger that was easily adjustable by a gunsmith or an owner who knew what they were doing. I've adjusted dozens of my own 700 triggers and always took care to make sure the job was done correctly. If improperly adjusted, you can get an unsafe situation.
In my area, aside from sporterized Lee-Enfields, the Remington 700 outnumbers all other brands by at least 2-1. In my 38 years I have never had a so-called 'Remington Moment,' nor have I ever heard of one happening that was independently verified, repeatable or happened to an unadjusted factory trigger or properly maintained firearm.
The CNBC 'report' was nothing more than a smear job, using cherry-picked 'evidence' a paid 'firearms expert' Jack Belk who has testified under oath that he has never actually been able to re-create a 'Remington Moment'. The 'tragedies' that CNBC reported on, it turns out, now don't exactly match the actual police reports of the shooting incidents...read, they lied, and the alleged sniper's rifles featured in the report have not been made available for independent testing to determine if the rifles had been tampered with.
Any rifle's trigger can be made unsafe. A buddy had a Tikka he bought in the EE that literally had a trigger that was measured in ounces. This was supposed to be a hunting/field rifle. For my own peace of mind, I never field a rifle with a trigger adjusted below 2.5 lbs for safety's sake. However my buddie's Tikka...if you blew on the trigger it would fire. I'm not exaggerating...at least not by much.
He tore it apart after his brother had an uninteded discharge with it Moose hunting and adjusted it properly, setting it at a safe 2.5 lbs. It was obvious from the mess left after the action was out of the stock that the Tikka had been 'adjusted' by someone who knew just enough to be dangerous.
No offense to the OP, but I find it very interesting that shortly after the CNBC report aired, suddenly we have these 'guys' who have all had unintended discharges with their 700s or know of a guy who did, or know a guy who knows a guy who had one.
Remington is taking this attack job by CNBC very serious. Now I know that Remington QC had slipped of late, but I find it very interesting to note that most of the individuals complaining of such 'problems' are often talking about new 700s sporting the X-mark Trigger, which prohibits replication of the 'Remington Moment' trigger problem; although they don't know that.
The few cases on record where there was a fatality, such as in the case of the mother shooting her son through the horse trailer, the rifle was a 1970s era rifle (when Remington QC reigned supreme) that was heavily rusted and uncared for and it had the old style Walker trigger. In the early 80s Remington issued a recall and updated the safety mechanism of all 700s returned from to the factory to prevent the potential for an accidental discharge. Thereafter, it was unnecessary to touch the safety or take it off safe in order to manipulate the bolt and unload the rifle. This certainly rings true for new production Model 700 SPS rifles as well.
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- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
Well put!
Yep your totaly right...
NOT!!!
The only group that was larger than 1.5" was the first cold bore shot & these factory loaded rounds were shot in under 3 seconds apart 2 weeks ago before it bagged this bad boy;
Need less to say I had this safety problem last year that scared a whole wack of them away.
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- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
That's a great looking buck! Nice shooting. I've heard really good things about the TC bolt guns. I held the venture, but didn't like the feel of the stock.
FWIW, cold bore groups are the most important when talking about a hunting rifle. I never warm up my barrel with a few shots before I take a poke at a deer.
But that is an aside, because your rifle obviously worked well enough to back that great buck! Congrats!
FWIW, cold bore groups are the most important when talking about a hunting rifle. I never warm up my barrel with a few shots before I take a poke at a deer.
But that is an aside, because your rifle obviously worked well enough to back that great buck! Congrats!
