POS ruger hawkeye
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dgradinaru
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Watching the shooter operate that Ruger is sure cringe worthy. I have several ruger's and i have no issue operating the bolt without binding. The bolt on these type of rifles have to be run freely as in when you lift the bolt your flicking your wrist freely and not pushing up against the side wall receiver. If i give the rifle to someone who hasn't really used mauser's or a ruger they are quick to bind the action.
Looks like same action as a Gunsite scout I had. I dry cycled the bolt ALOT, and used A tiny bit of grease and it smoothed up quite a bit. The bolt was a terrible feeling bolt out of the box. Got my hands on a tikka action and learned what a truly smooth bolt gun feels like. Sold the ruger, I now have two tikkas. Not a knock on ruger at all, I still have a few of them.
Trimmer 905
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Long winded is right. Watching him work that bolt was painful. The close ups showed the rifle was absolutely filthy. The bolt itself looked like it was still full of Cosmoline,yet,it still functioned flawlessly with deadly accuracy. I use graphite grease on my Mk II bolts and rail carriers dabbed on a fingertip and wiped over the rail tops and bottoms. Smooth as silk and they don't bind in really cold weather hunting Coyotes.
I have owned numerous mk2s and a few hawkeyes and they have all been good...but the latest one....just like nutn demonstrated...i need my bolts to function at -40 and grease is not an option....hours and hours of working the action with JB bore cleaner has helped...being careful of the lugs....if all the new hawkeyes are like this never again will I buy one...
freddyfour
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Seems like it is hot or miss. I had two Hawkeyes that were awesome and one that was very gritty.
Mine are sticky as compared to my other Mausers I own. A gun site scout and old tang safety both with binding sticky bolts if you don’t work them just right. Same motion and feel as a old Mauser but the things just bind or stick, lubed or dry. Noticed it on other rugers I’ve handled. Defiantly usable but there are many, much nicer Crf rifles for similar prices
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I mostly like nutnfancy. His reviews are very thorough and yes, long winded.
But this video demonstrates someone that doesn't know how to operate a bolt action rifle (especially a Mauser style) he drops the butt off shoulder and/or lifts head way up. His operation is jerky instead of smooth. So it's hard to tell if the rifle is the problem or he is. I think most of the boltys that nutnfancy uses are more precision style push feeds and he isn't perfectly familiar with CRF operation.
So:
1. make sure you operate bolt properly
2. If operation isn't the issue, smooth out the bolt by use, operating it 100 times or more with a bit of grease or JB paste.
3. If that doesn't help, it may be defective, and then you are going to have to go through the nightmare of Ruger warranty in Canada!
I have a couple Winchester Model 70’s and they are fantastic. I got it in my head that I “needed” a bolt action 223 and the only stainless CRF action was the Hawkeye. I’m glad I waited until I found one local to shoulder and work the action in...... boy was I disappointed. Maybe the older Rugers are better, actually they have to be, because what I handled went right back to the clerk and he even said the rifle I handled was bad.
Yup! That is what i do with all my bolt actions when they are brand new
The Ruger is pretty comparable to the Zastava M70's in "roughness" for a new out of the box Mauser style rifle. Different manufacturing techniques...casting with the Ruger, old school 98 style forged/milled and hand fitting with the Zastava, and it's not a "real" Mauser either with the breach cut receiver and fully adjustable trigger..more of a continuation of the commercial Mauser 98 copies.
Can't say one is better then the other, if you have to buy new...both will work properly, but be a bit "rough". Zastava star at $699 with walnut stocks, $599 with polymer, so there is a price difference for sure.
Personally I'd buy an old used PH/HVA/FN before any of the new stuff, they are $500 in excellent condition and are not rough, well made, maybe better then the new stuff out there...if you have a hard on for CRF that is.
Can't say one is better then the other, if you have to buy new...both will work properly, but be a bit "rough". Zastava star at $699 with walnut stocks, $599 with polymer, so there is a price difference for sure.
Personally I'd buy an old used PH/HVA/FN before any of the new stuff, they are $500 in excellent condition and are not rough, well made, maybe better then the new stuff out there...if you have a hard on for CRF that is.
