POS ruger hawkeye

The Ruger is pretty comparable to the Zastava M70's in "roughness" for a new out of the box Mauser style rifle. Different manufacturing techniques...casting with the Ruger, old school 98 style forged/milled and hand fitting with the Zastava, and it's not a "real" Mauser either with the breach cut receiver and fully adjustable trigger..more of a continuation of the commercial Mauser 98 copies.
Can't say one is better then the other, if you have to buy new...both will work properly, but be a bit "rough". Zastava star at $699 with walnut stocks, $599 with polymer, so there is a price difference for sure.
Personally I'd buy an old used PH/HVA/FN before any of the new stuff, they are $500 in excellent condition and are not rough, well made, maybe better then the new stuff out there...if you have a hard on for CRF that is.

Ouch.
Putting Ruger, Zastava and an old slow Mauser in the same comparison really hurts. Even considering its potential warts.
 
Ouch.
Putting Ruger, Zastava and an old slow Mauser in the same comparison really hurts. Even considering its potential warts.

Only when comparing prices lol.
Once you get over that and just look at the rifle manufacturing and performance, is a 50-70 year old 98 clone in excellent shape for $500 (HVA/FN/PH) that far off a new $700 Zastava or $1000 Hawkeye....or is it maybe still ahead?
 
My Ruger Hawkeyes are about 50/50 with rough bolt operation...working them helps. My Hawkeye african 416 Ruger is so smooth I've often checked to see if it actually chambered the next round.

As a side note my CRF, M70's are all smooth...:)
 
Had a Hawkeye in 204ruger, bought it new, was so excited.
Cycled the bolt.....such disappointment.
So rough, so much binding, such a huge action for a 204. Constant feeding issues.
Had to return the gun for store credit
I have an older tang safety in 22-250, I like that one.
I will never recommend a Hawkeye.
 
I`ve never owned a Ruger bolt action or revolver that was worth keeping. No build quality, rough actions, crappy triggers and no accuracy. Only two I ever felt were not too bad were the Mark 11 pistol and the 10/22.
 
I`ve never owned a Ruger bolt action or revolver that was worth keeping. No build quality, rough actions, crappy triggers and no accuracy. Only two I ever felt were not too bad were the Mark 11 pistol and the 10/22.

I've never owned one that wasn't worth keeping... only a couple have been Hawkeyes, I have had hundreds of Mark II's and tang safety rifles... the only reason they go out is so that another one can come in. Excellent build quality, easy to work on triggers and great accuracy.
 
I've never owned one that wasn't worth keeping... only a couple have been Hawkeyes, I have had hundreds of Mark II's and tang safety rifles... the only reason they go out is so that another one can come in. Excellent build quality, easy to work on triggers and great accuracy.

Your $$, your choice. There is better stuff available for the same $$.
 
I have owned multiple Hawkeyes, MK IIs and Zastavas and they are not even on the same planet in my books.

Some users seems to have personal beef with ruger lmao, most guys on here have owned enough firearms to know the unfortunate fact that every manufacturer produces lemons.

The only issue I have with the ruger m77 in various incarnations is its weight. Besides that I have never had one that wasn’t slick as hell
 
Why would anyone spend $1k+ for a Ruger Hawkeye that has bolt cycling problems? As Hitzy says, there are a lot of other rifles available for less money that don't have that problem. HVA rifles built on FN Commercial Mauser actions for less than half the cost of a Ruger are available if you want a 30-06 or 8x57, that will function perfectly in every way. Once in a while you will see a .270 come available. I have several in factory form, others that have been re-barrelled or re-chambered. I wouldn't swap them for any of the new rifles out there, but to each his own.
 
Your $$, your choice. There is better stuff available for the same $$.

I've owned and shot a hell of a lot more rifles than most, and in my opinion there is not a better rifle for the money than a Ruger M77... that is not to say there are not other good choices in the same price bracket, CZ 550 and Win M70 to name a couple. But there is no such thing as a "common problem" with Ruger bolts... every company has occasional QC issues... but of the hundreds of Ruger rifles I have owned and shot, I have never had a single bolt jam. They have all functioned well with solid feeding and ejection. It cracks me up that some opinions here are from people who have never owned an M77 and only shoot low-end rifles... and complain about "zipper bolts" on those $300 rifles too.
 
Only when comparing prices lol.
Once you get over that and just look at the rifle manufacturing and performance, is a 50-70 year old 98 clone in excellent shape for $500 (HVA/FN/PH) that far off a new $700 Zastava or $1000 Hawkeye....or is it maybe still ahead?

That's the beauty of the earlier Mauser pattern rifles from those makers. Hand fitted & assembled by folks that had the RIGHT education & skills taught to
them from the get go. A lost discipline in general education in these fookin' socialist mutant days. :(
 
Only when comparing prices lol.
Once you get over that and just look at the rifle manufacturing and performance, is a 50-70 year old 98 clone in excellent shape for $500 (HVA/FN/PH) that far off a new $700 Zastava or $1000 Hawkeye....or is it maybe still ahead?

I'm not pretending to be an old Mauser type aficionado but the #### on close, need to drill and tap, rework the bolt handle, low comb, heavy trigger of a HVA would instantly have me taking my chances, whatever they are, with a Hawkeye. Even if it needed a 10$ striker spring.
 
I've never owned a Hawkeye, but I have had a 77/22 RSI and a 77/17. Both had rougher bolts and poor triggers initially, but a few hours with a stone and a few thousand cycles later both turned into good little guns. I have learned I'm not a Ruger guy, preferring many alternatives, but think they make a decent product at a reasonable price. I'd say give yours a fair go, run it a bunch, and see what happens. It's a used firearm now, so won't lose much more than it already has, leaving you nothing to lose really.
 
Will you guys let me know when stainless synthetic husqvarnas come up on tradex? ��

I’m not a ruger fanboy but I feel sometimes that they may have the only design team of a major firearms company that has ever handled a hunting rifle

Zastavas are great rifles imo, but they need work out of the box and I have had a couple of lemons. Great triggers, very nice blueing and those that I’ve owned had nice stocks and the regular stocked models shot well.
 
I have had a Stainless Hawkeye that had issues - sticky lockup was one issue. Stainless tends to gaul especially if two of the same series of stainless are scrubbed one against the other. Grease the lockup faces of the bolt as soon as you get one and this may help. If the surfaces are already gauled, it may be possible to stone them back to smooth, but they will never be perfect again. Never run the lockup faces dry.

Another issue was a frequent - very - failure to fire. The machining inside the bolt was bad, causing the firing pin to lose speed as it bounced sideways just before it hit the primer. Daughter tried four different cartridges and the deer walked away puzzled.

Nothing like the older Rugers.
 
I’ve had a cpl feeding issues with Hawkeyes in 350 rem and a couple customs with 284 brass, but have had hundreds of rugers and haven’t had any binding issues. I’m sure it happens but I would think it’s rare
 
I'm not pretending to be an old Mauser type aficionado but the #### on close, need to drill and tap, rework the bolt handle, low comb, heavy trigger of a HVA would instantly have me taking my chances, whatever they are, with a Hawkeye. Even if it needed a 10$ striker spring.

No 98's are #### on close...and nothing really required to mount a scope and go shooting on the commercial models, they are d&t, nicely shaped bolt handles, and come in a variety of stock configurations.
 
No 98's are #### on close...and nothing really required to mount a scope and go shooting on the commercial models, they are d&t, nicely shaped bolt handles, and come in a variety of stock configurations.

Gotcha. I have the fun memories of trying to put a scope on a HVa 46 but it was more work than it was worth.
 
I've owned and shot a hell of a lot more rifles than most, and in my opinion there is not a better rifle for the money than a Ruger M77... that is not to say there are not other good choices in the same price bracket, CZ 550 and Win M70 to name a couple. But there is no such thing as a "common problem" with Ruger bolts... every company has occasional QC issues... but of the hundreds of Ruger rifles I have owned and shot, I have never had a single bolt jam. They have all functioned well with solid feeding and ejection. It cracks me up that some opinions here are from people who have never owned an M77 and only shoot low-end rifles... and complain about "zipper bolts" on those $300 rifles too.

Wow! Well that makes you da man then.
 
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