And not with the threat of jail time if you are ever caught with it.
Possible CZ 858 reclassification?
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And not with the threat of jail time if you are ever caught with it.
The reason they use that wording is that it is the type of wording used on the banned by name list. In other words, they want cabinet to prohibit those firearms and all variants of them by name because they cannot do it themselves otherwise.
That is correct. From Wikipedia:
"There have been calls for section 7 to protect property. In 1981 the Progressive Conservative Party suggested that section 7 be extended to protect the "enjoyment of property." Some provincial governments, including that of Prince Edward Island, as well as the New Democratic Party, opposed the change. The NDP thought that if property rights were enshrined in the Charter, other economic rights should be added. In September 1982, after the Charter had been enacted, the government of British Columbia approved of an unsuccessful amendment to section 7 that would protect property rights.[19] See Unsuccessful attempts to amend the Canadian Constitution for more information."
Where it gets sticky is this: 1) The bill of rights, which predated the charter (brought in by Diefenbaker) included the "right to own and enjoy property". 2) English Common law includes property rights. 3) The charter does not actually grant anyone any rights nor does it limit the rights we have to those printed in it. Our rights are a forgone conclusion and are not granted nor can they be taken away (they are subject to reasonable limitation under law). Even though the charter does not mention property rights, we do have them. It's why the government must pay fair compensation for expropriating land and they cannot simply take it.
Right, my point is I think the document is old news and the held shipment a different matter.
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You bet! its a bad word in any language!
Related words:
annexation, confiscation, grab, impoundment, repossession, sequestration; defalcation, embezzlement, misappropriation, misuse, peculation, theft; despoilment, looting, pillaging; encroachment, infringement, piracy; invasion, occupation, trespass; deforcement, disfurnishment, dispossession, ejection, stripping
You know - let's say Wolvarine brought in 500 rifles with each shipment (1000 rifles total). Does anyone else not realize that IF these rifles get released, the price for them will go up $100 each to cover the $100,000 RCMP/Customs extortion fee? No business would just swallow that kind of expense.
If they brought in LESS (or more) the price would adjust accordingly...
If they brought in LESS (or more) the price would adjust accordingly...
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IF they get released for sale ....
Sargeant Slaughter
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Big joke for someone who probably has nothing to lose ? By the way when you grow up you might like to play with real pussies !
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Actually omitted/ struck from Canadian Charter of Rights.
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if they seize those 2 shipments they better damn well pay for them
it is super super grand theft imo
taking people's stuff more or less a gun point with no compensation is wrong regardless who does it
by most any of the worlds religions or concepts of morality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
The Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, are a set of biblical principles relating to ethics and worship, which play a fundamental role in Judaism, Islam and Christianity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_steal
You shall not steal is one of the Ten Commandments,[1] of the Torah (the Pentateuch), which are widely understood as moral imperatives by legal scholars, Jewish scholars, Catholic scholars, and Post-Reformation scholars.[2]
it is super super grand theft imo
taking people's stuff more or less a gun point with no compensation is wrong regardless who does it
by most any of the worlds religions or concepts of morality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
The Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, are a set of biblical principles relating to ethics and worship, which play a fundamental role in Judaism, Islam and Christianity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_steal
You shall not steal is one of the Ten Commandments,[1] of the Torah (the Pentateuch), which are widely understood as moral imperatives by legal scholars, Jewish scholars, Catholic scholars, and Post-Reformation scholars.[2]
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CanadianReich
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from memory the ONLY difference between the cz858 tactical 4v and tactical 2v was that the first was restricted and the latter was non restricted (other than the chrome lined barrel)
Is it just me or is the main criteria for being "full auto" is that the gun is non restricted ergo not registered ergo the RCMP want to "register" it by making it prohibited?!?!
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this "full auto" thing must be just rampant or they wouldn`t worry about it so much.certainly must be some kind of phobia cause i have never heard of one up here where the police do the robbing
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British Common Law also gives the right to bear arms, and someone tried to fight the Canadian courts by using that argument. They lost.
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Lol. Ok, you've got me figured. Here is a picture of my Czechs, before my terrible boating accident:
I'd show you a picture of my wife, she's a size 2 hottie, but I'm a gentleman that doesn't need to brag to be happy.
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I'd show you a picture of my wife, she's a size 2 hottie, but I'm a gentleman that doesn't need to brag to be happy.[/QUOTE]
If you had showed us your wife in the first place that would have really added something to this post ........ don't want to see cats . The only thing that trumps guns is beautiful women !
If you had showed us your wife in the first place that would have really added something to this post ........ don't want to see cats . The only thing that trumps guns is beautiful women !
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I'd show you a picture of my wife, she's a size 2 hottie, but I'm a gentleman that doesn't need to brag to be happy.[/QUOTE]
This reminds me of highschool 10 years ago, when the kids that wanted to be cool would openly talk and brag about the drugs they do and the girls they bone. We all know that the ones that really did that stuff kept their mouths shut.
Sadly as we all grow up and realize that the ones who brag the most are the ones that never actually did those things.
Be a man. Put your money where your mouth is and prove it.
This reminds me of highschool 10 years ago, when the kids that wanted to be cool would openly talk and brag about the drugs they do and the girls they bone. We all know that the ones that really did that stuff kept their mouths shut.
Sadly as we all grow up and realize that the ones who brag the most are the ones that never actually did those things.
Be a man. Put your money where your mouth is and prove it.
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Err.. you just did. Brag that is.
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