Possible CZ 858 reclassification?

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You know really, what's the difference. It's not the prevention of this or that rifle, or this or that version of whatever rifle becoming prohib that we have to stop. Its the laws that allow this classification bull#### in the first place. It was sold semi-auto, and it only functions semi-auto as sold. As long as no one has illegally altered it, it should remain non-prohibited. Can anybody find any case in Canada where a person was shot with either a full-auto or a semi converted to full auto? This whole program is a waste of resources that could be used to deal with real crime, instead of making law abiding citizens criminals.
 
And this is why we need to flood our MP's, PM's office and our friend Cheryl Gallant with letters that the RCMP's behaviour is unacceptable. The politicians don't seem to realize that they are now walking right into a political minefield. When they re-classified a few hundred rifles, it generated some degree of noise but not enough. What they are about to do now is: a) steal a lot more that usual people's properties ( those who somehow turn them in) and then much worse, b) create criminals out of decent law abiding citizens (those who refuse to turn the guns in) and apply Conservative government new law that imposes a minimum mandatory prison time. That law they have passed, will effectively become their worst enemy since it would persecute exactly those people who helped the Conservatives to get into power. Talk about shooting themselves into their own foot. It does not get much dumber than this. I am actually not all that convinced they would follow through with re-classification of such high volume firearm as CZ858/VZ58, there has got to be serious thousands of them out there but never say never. There is a clear pattern they want to ban all semi-autos and what is next? Levers ? Somehow they will find them not to fit the C-68 ? The RCMP has clearly turned into a rogue organization ( they have actually been behaving that way for long time ) and need to be straightened up or dissolved altogether, which is unlikely but we really need to start screaming at our politicians since they are too stupid to realize they are signing their own pink slips.
 
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Highland Fusilier said:
CZ-858 no officer I don't have it anymore I sold it to John from Ontario with my Kriss and Swiss arms......
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Ok so you do that but don't ever get caught with it in the public eye.
That means you maybe able to hold onto your rifle but you will never be able to shoot it.
Kind of pointless in having the rifle if you aren't allowed to shoot it.
 
windage said:
Ok so you do that but don't ever get caught with it in the public eye.
That means you maybe able to hold onto your rifle but you will never be able to shoot it.
Kind of pointless in having the rifle if you aren't allowed to shoot it.
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Really the guys in Toronto don't seem to have a problem shooting their illegal handguns. They got it figured out already.
 
Huh, mine just fell into an unmarked hole in the woods after accidentally being coated in heavy grease. Right next to a case of ammo. So very unfortunate for me.
 
windage said:
Ok so you do that but don't ever get caught with it in the public eye.
That means you maybe able to hold onto your rifle but you will never be able to shoot it.
Kind of pointless in having the rifle if you aren't allowed to shoot it.
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There are already lots of legally owned prohib. rifles that will never make it to the field or range, again.
But they don't need to be "buried" like a potentially banned 858, would.
You could always dig it up ever now and then, to polish and fondle it. Sounds like fun, eh?:)
 
windage said:
Ok so you do that but don't ever get caught with it in the public eye.
That means you maybe able to hold onto your rifle but you will never be able to shoot it.
Kind of pointless in having the rifle if you aren't allowed to shoot it.
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So what your saying is that its better to give the rifle up to be destroyed rather than keep it but not shoot it. IMO, its better to at least keep it. Then, when the Liberals and NDP have had their way with this country and the chaos begins, ill have bigger guns than anyone else. You wont see me giving up any guns that they dont know about. Walking in to a police station and handing over $1000 of dollars of perfectly good equipment is like walking into the DMV and handing them your keys. No, wait... even the DMV has more sense than the RCMP these days. At least they'll give you a tax receipt.
 
I guess some people can detect scarcasim. I was trying to make light of this ####ty situation we are all in.Im hoping CSSA sorts those RCMP clowns out. As a NR Kriss and CZ-858 Canadian owner I plan on getting a lifetime membership to CSSA and NFA as soon as my next paycheck comes in and I hope everyone else does as well.
 
Highland Fusilier said:
And if they do make me turn them in they will be getting them in a slab of concrete or stripped into pieces and welded on to a chunk of steel.
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Stripped into pieces with all the pieces welded like to a 4x8 sheet of steel like and exploded diagram! Bring a forklift and hope you have a place to store it!....

We all need to fight so I am with you on the lifetime memberships! going to do it next pay!
 
sergey96 said:
So this is where this is going. Most of CZ 858 are newly manufacture receiver. RCMP will waist their time because all they have to prove that new CZ 858 are fully re-manufactured. It is the VZ58 that what you should be concern about :)

Cheers
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The reverse is true. The CZ 858 receivers are welded, the CSA VZ58 receivers are not. Mind you they'll both be prohibited sometime after the next federal election so the point is somewhat academic in the long run.
 
I sold mine to a Nigerian King who offered me $1,000,000,000. And yes, he had his PAL, officer.

..never did see the money though.
 
cordilleran said:
The reverse is true. The CZ 858 receivers are welded, the CSA VZ58 receivers are not. Mind you they'll both be prohibited sometime after the next federal election so the point is somewhat academic in the long run.
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I should just sell my guns and join the Liberals. Join the winning side...
 
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