Possible deer hunting closures
- Thread starter Royzo
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Hey OP I have been consulting with local first nations and we have good news, you can become a band member and shoot all the deer you want next season (because that's how it works right?) provided that you:
A) give up all your rights to holding fee simple property
B) send your children to a residential school where they will be lucky enough to have total immersion in the Cree language (what an opportunity for them!)
C) have a sour gas well built on your property that due to A you cannot truly profit from
This just in guys; overhunting and overfishing are real concepts but they often detract from the real issue at hand which is ecosystem degradation by heavy industry and climate change.
Not a hippy, just a scientist...
A) give up all your rights to holding fee simple property
B) send your children to a residential school where they will be lucky enough to have total immersion in the Cree language (what an opportunity for them!)
C) have a sour gas well built on your property that due to A you cannot truly profit from
This just in guys; overhunting and overfishing are real concepts but they often detract from the real issue at hand which is ecosystem degradation by heavy industry and climate change.
Not a hippy, just a scientist...
Native hunters will hunt regardless of what is banned or closed.
If you mention that in government circles everybody goes into denial mode and the subject changes or dead silence ensues.
A deer killed is a deer killed regardless of the ethnicity of whoever killed it.
Politically correct statistics don't work.
ALL variables need to be brought into the equation for successful forecasting and game management.
And that unfortunately is a problem. I think their (Algonquians) extended hunt session has already played a role in the demise of deer and moose population in my area. A harsh winter just brought the point home.
Winter comes early to my hunt area and deer go to their winter yards early. I often hear shots from deer and moose winter yard area when I shouldn't. That can't be good. I don't blame natives, but a compromise must be reached based on reason.
bearkilr
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This thread is about deer closures in Manitoba, you're from Vancouver. Stop trolling with your racial nonsense.
So the deer and moose populations in Toronto are down due to the Algonquins? Hmmmmmm.
Actually three of our last four winters have been pretty hard for the deer..
As a truck driver doing a run from Winnipeg to Edmonton, I have hardly seen any deer roadkill the entire summer. I've seen maybe 1/2 dozen deer in the last week dead in the ditches, mostly bucks (when I could see anything left of antlers.
I do the same run every week, so my observations are fairly consistent. I don't see the herds of deer out in hayfields either. Might be too soon for them to do that, yet.
What I have been seeing since late summer is a lot of dead coyotes (and some large red sprayed "splotches" in the driving lane) along the highway, and quite a few hunting the shoulders of the highways.
I do the same run every week, so my observations are fairly consistent. I don't see the herds of deer out in hayfields either. Might be too soon for them to do that, yet.
What I have been seeing since late summer is a lot of dead coyotes (and some large red sprayed "splotches" in the driving lane) along the highway, and quite a few hunting the shoulders of the highways.
skneub
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south of GP there seems to be a real shortage of deer..
I hunted all of October and November (plus 2 weeks off hunting in November)..Don't bother asking how much I spent lol
But the deer numbers are not there like normal
Deer on Haida Gwaii is way down this year ther is a increase of non Haida's hunting at home but I think it more about wet weather we bin having
Others at home are saying to many non native hunters and thay need to lower how meny deer thay get and shorten the deer season.
Others at home are saying to many non native hunters and thay need to lower how meny deer thay get and shorten the deer season.
I seen +- 50 Doe/unknown when hunting this year , But only seen 5 or so bucks.
Sure I got my deer , little buck But yes the last years of hunting I normally see well over 100 in rifle and muz
Hope most of them doe find themselves a buck so we get some more for the next years.
Sure I got my deer , little buck But yes the last years of hunting I normally see well over 100 in rifle and muz
Hope most of them doe find themselves a buck so we get some more for the next years.
Very little deer roadkill here as well. Wondering if that is just less snow than recent winters. First thing that should be closed is all non resident tags then proceed from there. If that doesn't work then close the resident season, then all hunting including sustenance hunting. Around here I really don't know how many First Nations hunters are big time deer hunters. I would assume they would be shooting elk and moose when possible, I know I would.
bearkilr
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That's also a large part of our problem, too many Metis hunters. They have the same rights as native hunters and it seems everyone suddenly has a card. Most of them look whiter than me.
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I think you mist my pont The whight guy say it's all the indians and the indians say its to many whight hunters
wen in fact its weather
its a slippery slope playing the blame game I know on Hiada Gwaii we get priorty so if you cut back native hunting then by law thay need to cut back non native hunting first I dont want to see you guys have your hunting cut back do to weather it just one of those years fore everyone
Agreed, when they closed the season for three years in the seventies in Manitoba I don`t remember there being that much talk about native over hunting or over population of predators, as I remember it I saw more fox and less coyotes in those days! The winter weather is the biggest factor in causing a quick decline in deer populations! We all have to learn to play together nicely!
