Possible Elephant Hunt being Auctioned at SCI Calgary

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Botswana has reopened elephant hunting after a disastrous 5-year closure that resulted in a population several times greater than the carrying capacity of the land.

For a balanced story which includes the Botswana Government's statement see this article "Of Elephants and Men". https://furbearerconservation.com/blog/2019/5/26/of-elephants-and-men-botswanas-response-to-hunting-ban

SCI Calgary might be having one of the first licenses available at auction at their dinner on Jan 25. I think they are still working out the details.

https://www.onlinehuntingauctions.com/27th-Annual-Fundraiser-SCI-Calgary-Chapter_as58937
 
hawk-i said:
To bad it is an auction and not a lottery where the average Joe might get a chance at it.
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I may be mistaken, but SCI never really struck me as an Average Joe sorta organization.

I'm also curious as to whether you can import any parts of a elephant these days? I would love a skull for my collection...
 
OUCH!!! Got the rifle... Too bad I don't have either the money or the interest in hunting elephants... Cool hunt for somebody though!
 
I was offered a non-exportable "own use" elephant in Namibia in October 2019, for $8,500 US. Turned out that we couldn't arrange things in time to get the licence. With this auction at ten times that price I'd be looking at other opportunities.
 
There were comments about the "common people, common Joe" approach. I believe SCI Calgary's purpose is to raise money using whatever means, and not to supply an elephant hunt to every person who would want one. If you don't have the money to hunt an elephant in Africa, as I don't, it is just the way it is. We shouldn't dump on an organization consisting of volunteers trying to raise money to undertake projects. There are 13 other SCI chapters in Canada, and a bunch of fish and feather organizations that need volunteers, but I bet most people would rather be keyboard advocates and whine, than to actually do something. By the way, I looked at Calgary's auction items, and there are plenty of other items that might fit your budget, and if not, there might be something at one of the other organizations trying to raise money by volunteers to undertake projects.

I've found a copy of some of SCI Calgary's achievements over the past year. So for those whining, what have you done to protect wildlife or hunting?


WHAT HAS SCI CALGARY DONE FOR ME LATELY?
• Hosted a Veterans’ Shoot at Silver Willow.
• Participated in the development of SCIF Canada and made contributions of $4000 to AWLS through SCIF Canada.
• Sent the Chapter’s first teacher to AWLS outdoor teacher training in Jackson WY.
• Sponsored and mentored students from Lethbridge College at a September waterfowl hunt, in collaboration between SCI Calgary, Lethbridge F&G, AHEIA, Delta Waterfowl, Ducks Unlimited and the Lethbridge College Student Chapter of Ducks Unlimited.
• Sponsored a Chuckwagon at the Strathmore Stampede to display SCI’s solidarity with the ranching, farming and rodeo community. Held a Chapter members’ BBQ on Sunday.
• Increased students scholarships from 1 to 2 at Lethbridge College.
• Held horn scoring at the AGM.
• Provided 500 pounds of inspected, cut and wrapped venison for Alex Food Centre for their use. Members performed wait staffing for an open meals day.
• Hosted the Calgary International Hunting Expo together with SCI Fundraising Banquet.
• Involved in the election campaign of Miranda Rosin, a new Member of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta. We met with Whitney Issik MLA for the Calgary-Glenmore.
• Chapter VP met with Jason Kenny as leader of the Opposition, then Premier of Alberta, approximately 12 times where hunting and habitat conservation was specifically discussed.
• The Alberta SCI Coalition’s representative Eric Moland met with the Wildlife Department officials several times at meetings of Alberta Game Policy Advisory Council (AGPAC) and Alberta Game Management Advisory Group (AGMAG).
• Sponsored the Packhorse Races with $500 at Millarville Heritage Rodeo.
• Directors David Little and Logan Girletz made a presentation to various SCI executives and staff on the impact of Raincoast Conservation Foundation on hunting in British Columbia.
• Stacey Girletz attended the Ladies Range Day sponsored by the Red Deer Chapter.
• Directors/members mentored first-time hunters during November rifle whitetail season.
• Chapter members took Blue Bags to Cameroon and Tanzania.
• Directors began coordinated discussions with interested groups, including the Canadian Wild Turkey Federation to reintroduce the Eastern wild turkey.
• SCI Banquet attendees raised $2300 with local TV hunting personalities TJ Schwanky and Vanessa Harrop for mentally challenged adults and children school in South Africa.
• Sponsored lunch (with the Alberta Coalition) for days 1 & 2 at the Alberta Society of Professional Biologists Convention.
• Initiated the SCI Canada Artist of the Year Program – Stefanna Spoletini’s 3 Bears auctioned at the past SCI dinner.
 
DMT said:
There were comments about the "common people, common Joe" approach. I believe SCI Calgary's purpose is to raise money using whatever means, and not to supply an elephant hunt to every person who would want one. If you don't have the money to hunt an elephant in Africa, as I don't, it is just the way it is. We shouldn't dump on an organization consisting of volunteers trying to raise money to undertake projects. There are 13 other SCI chapters in Canada, and a bunch of fish and feather organizations that need volunteers, but I bet most people would rather be keyboard advocates and whine, than to actually do something. By the way, I looked at Calgary's auction items, and there are plenty of other items that might fit your budget, and if not, there might be something at one of the other organizations trying to raise money by volunteers to undertake projects.

I've found a copy of some of SCI Calgary's achievements over the past year. So for those whining, what have you done to protect wildlife or hunting?


WHAT HAS SCI CALGARY DONE FOR ME LATELY?
• Hosted a Veterans’ Shoot at Silver Willow.
• Participated in the development of SCIF Canada and made contributions of $4000 to AWLS through SCIF Canada.
• Sent the Chapter’s first teacher to AWLS outdoor teacher training in Jackson WY.
• Sponsored and mentored students from Lethbridge College at a September waterfowl hunt, in collaboration between SCI Calgary, Lethbridge F&G, AHEIA, Delta Waterfowl, Ducks Unlimited and the Lethbridge College Student Chapter of Ducks Unlimited.
• Sponsored a Chuckwagon at the Strathmore Stampede to display SCI’s solidarity with the ranching, farming and rodeo community. Held a Chapter members’ BBQ on Sunday.
• Increased students scholarships from 1 to 2 at Lethbridge College.
• Held horn scoring at the AGM.
• Provided 500 pounds of inspected, cut and wrapped venison for Alex Food Centre for their use. Members performed wait staffing for an open meals day.
• Hosted the Calgary International Hunting Expo together with SCI Fundraising Banquet.
• Involved in the election campaign of Miranda Rosin, a new Member of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta. We met with Whitney Issik MLA for the Calgary-Glenmore.
• Chapter VP met with Jason Kenny as leader of the Opposition, then Premier of Alberta, approximately 12 times where hunting and habitat conservation was specifically discussed.
• The Alberta SCI Coalition’s representative Eric Moland met with the Wildlife Department officials several times at meetings of Alberta Game Policy Advisory Council (AGPAC) and Alberta Game Management Advisory Group (AGMAG).
• Sponsored the Packhorse Races with $500 at Millarville Heritage Rodeo.
• Directors David Little and Logan Girletz made a presentation to various SCI executives and staff on the impact of Raincoast Conservation Foundation on hunting in British Columbia.
• Stacey Girletz attended the Ladies Range Day sponsored by the Red Deer Chapter.
• Directors/members mentored first-time hunters during November rifle whitetail season.
• Chapter members took Blue Bags to Cameroon and Tanzania.
• Directors began coordinated discussions with interested groups, including the Canadian Wild Turkey Federation to reintroduce the Eastern wild turkey.
• SCI Banquet attendees raised $2300 with local TV hunting personalities TJ Schwanky and Vanessa Harrop for mentally challenged adults and children school in South Africa.
• Sponsored lunch (with the Alberta Coalition) for days 1 & 2 at the Alberta Society of Professional Biologists Convention.
• Initiated the SCI Canada Artist of the Year Program – Stefanna Spoletini’s 3 Bears auctioned at the past SCI dinner.
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I guess, in reply, in Alberta, we have two versions of the Ministers Hunt, one goes to the highest bidder and the other is available by lottery.

Grizz
 
Botswana has about 130,000 elephants living in habitat able to sustain about 30,000. They are eating so much of the tree cover ( including rare Baobabs hundreds of years old) that all animals are threatened by the loss of trees. Botswana needs to reduce elephant numbers drastically to get them in line with the carrying capacity of the land. Opening up elephant hunting again is a big step in the right direction. My only disappointment is that it costs so much to go!
 
Longwalker said:
Botswana has about 130,000 elephants living in habitat able to sustain about 30,000. They are eating so much of the tree cover ( including rare Baobabs hundreds of years old) that all animals are threatened by the loss of trees. Botswana needs to reduce elephant numbers drastically to get them in line with the carrying capacity of the land. Opening up elephant hunting again is a big step in the right direction. My only disappointment is that it costs so much to go!
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https://polarbearscience.com/2017/0...on-larger-than-previous-thought-almost-30000/

A lot of propaganda out there, spread by alarmists , usually so they can tax us more. :)

Grizz
 
Every Hunter has their opinion as to what game they will or will not hunt. Or by what method. That is fine, everyone has an opinion. But why any Hunter would call another Hunter dispicable for wishing to hunt a legal game animal is highly questionable.

Perhaps you aren't educated? Elephant herds in Zimbabwe, South Africa, Botswana are eating themselves out of house and home. Whole forest ecosystems are threatened and all animals that depend on them. Why? Because wild Africa is being encroached upon, and game is forced into smaller areas by agriculture and other development. Without the ability to migrate as they once did, man has taken pity on poor conditioned animals and drilled wells. This just keeps elephants even more inclined to not migrate to find water in dry seasons. With a well the water supply is ever present. The forest takes a greater brunt with year round populations. Elephants also reproduce at a rate faster than even unlimited sport hunting could handle. In the past, surplus elephants were culled to protect the environment. Unfortunately people who think elephant hunting is dispicable managed to end culling 20-30 years ago. These unwitting fools have created the dire situation elephants in these countries are in.

Go to Kruger National Park soon, for it won't exist in the current fashion in a few years. It is estimated that only about 9% of the original multi canopy forest exists. Most of the forest has been destroyed since the culls ended. By overpopulated elephants. Desertfication is a serious concern in Botswana and around Hangwe National Park in Zimbabwe.

We haven't even talked about poaching. Surest way to prevent poaching is to have outfitters and hunters in the bush. But ivory should be regulated and sold.

As it currently stands, elephant ivory, hide, skulls etc can be imported into Canada.
 
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