Possible loophole for ban/confiscation

gorky

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Was just thinking.... this is by no means the best solution if a ban/confiscation is implemented but it will at least cost them a helluva lot more $$$.

Most of our ATTs state we can possess any gun for which we are authorized to have and have the reg cert for. If we know the guns are banned and will be confiscated on, say, Wednesday, why doesnt everyone send some of the guns they own to friends they trust. First they will be in the mail, untouchable (hell, even Canada Post can't find them sometimes). Then, they will be in a legal possessor but not at the main residence. Even if the cops get a warrant to pick up the gun, the warrant can't apply to someone else's house (especially if they do not know where it is. This might be more useful if only some provinces follow the confiscation order (thank god I live in AB). Further to this point, do you have to tell the police where the gun is ? At the very least, they would need ANOTHER warrant, wouldnt they ? I then would if FOIP would cover you if you did not disclose that information ?

Just a thought - anything to make life hard on those bastards IF things go south for us. Like I said before, I am glad that some provinces MIGHT opt out of the confiscation order and thankfully, Alberta would probably be one of them.
 
Don't put a lot of faith in the "opt out"... It's just part of Martin's smoke and mirror show to distract, pacify, divide and conquer us. The bottom line is THEY WANT TO TAKE OUR GUNS... all of our guns. There are no grey areas that will save us if this goes through.

But I do like you idea about shipping stuff around just to be a pain in the ass.... Why make it easy for them
 
Another possible solution would be to store your guns in the U.S. (kind of like British gun owners who store their handguns in France). Couldn’t you rent a storage compartment at a bank or something and leave your handguns there for a while?
 
Only the frames are considered firearms.....hand them a stripped frame.
Then sign up for a machining class......:)
 
gorky said:
Even if the cops get a warrant to pick up the gun, the warrant can't apply to someone else's house (especially if they do not know where it is. ...... At the very least, they would need ANOTHER warrant, wouldnt they ? .....Like I said before, I am glad that some provinces MIGHT opt out of the confiscation order and thankfully, Alberta would probably be one of them.
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Last week in Parkdale ( a Toronto region) the cops searched houses without
warrants ... nobody complained ... although people were intimidated.

I hope Alberta opts out .... I will move there ... or USA.
 
peter3334 said:
Last week in Parkdale ( a Toronto region) the cops searched houses without
warrants ... nobody complained ... although people were intimidated.
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That's because people there were dumb enough to consent to such a blatant invasion of their privacy.
 
capp325 said:
That's because people there were dumb enough to consent to such a blatant invasion of their privacy.
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Could not have put it any better myself.

To paraphrase Armedsask: "You think if Alberta or BC was in charge there would be half of this crap?" I would love to see the cops try to muscle their way in around here :p :D
 
Oh and I really like the idea of storing in the US. I had thought about just applying to have my guns "serviced" down there for an extended period of time but why not just store em there. I wonder if the CFC would allow it. Here is a better question - let's say they allow it now but refuse it later. If you apply for an export permit that is denied, what happens to the guns ? Then I would just wait until the Canadian gov't figured out a way to get em up here at which point they would be sold to an American FFL seeing as how they are already in the US
 
Oh and I really like the idea of storing in the US.
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I suspect that the Feds would either: (a) be happy that you sent your handgun out of the country (and that you no longer have access to it or (b) direct you to deliver up the pistol or face some type of criminal sanction. Either way, you're screwed.

Once it becomes a matter of your interpretation of the law versus the federal government's, who do you think has more resources to take it through the courts? The whole thing stinks of dictatorial legislation that is being run up the flag pole to see how any people will salute.

The danger is that an ignorant public may well support a bad law that "sounds good". They won't see how big a failure the ban will be until years later. By then, private handgun ownership will be a fond memory - like coyote hunting with a non-restricted AR and a 20-round mag.

One just has to look at what kind of miserable failure the federal gun registry has been to see that these types of grandiose schemes don't do a thing to reduce crime. They just play well with people who know nothing about how Canadian firearms law actually works. Problem is: the ignorant voter's vote is worth the same as yours or mine. And, by the time the people see how worthless the effort has been, the damage to the recreational firearms owners has been done. Liberals: 1, Whipping Boy Gun Owner: 0
 
gorky said:
Oh and I really like the idea of storing in the US. I had thought about just applying to have my guns "serviced" down there for an extended period of time but why not just store em there. I wonder if the CFC would allow it.
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Shouldn't you be able to get an ATT to the U.S. border and upon your return inform the firearms center that you got rid of your guns while you were down there? I think a bigger problem would be figuring out a way to legally store your guns in the States. I'm not sure if that is even allowed under the U.S. law.

Personally, I'm planning to move to the States after I finish law school anyway, so if the damn ban is actually passed, it would be convenient to keep the guns down south for a couple of years, safely out of reach of the liberal gun grabbing #######s.
 
You know boys - you may be onto something with this american thing.

I wonder if we could find a few respectable firearms owners down there we could trust with some of these guns? I mean - if they're going to take 'em anyway, its not like there's a lot of risk.

It would be a major coup both for us and in the media if we could announce the 'firearms refugee' program where we've moved all our confiscation-worthy firearms to the states and out of the reach of the CFC - and tell canadians the CFC DIDN"T win and those guns will be coming home 'when the time is right'. And that we won't be giving up the fight!

THEN what do the libs do? hehehe - can't touch 'em in america, and if they try to force us we simply say - sorry, sold 'em down there. Prove otherwise.
 
I recall when C-68 came about, there were adds from American companies offering to store firearms for a monthly fee. If anyone has back issues of Canadian Access or the Gun Runner perhaps they can find a name or a contact number. Given the current situation - once word gets across the line - those adds may reappear. After that it is a matter of trying to figure out which companies are legitimate.
 
"Sorry sir, I recently gave all of my firearms to a rather kind Inuit fellow. Where did he take them? Gosh, I'm not sure... maybe you should check the registry..."
 
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