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I have a few buddies who shoot long range (over 1000) I would like to have a rifle that will do the same, I know it is going to take alot of practice for me to have any sort of accuracy at that distance

I think I have decided on the 300 rum, I have never actually shot one but when reading up they seem to be able to get the job done and fairly flat, please correct me if I am wrong I am new to this.

the only thing that I can read to turn me away from this caliber is the fact that it has a lot of recoil (according to my research) which can be severely reduced by things like recoil reducing inserts, shock absorbing but stock pads, and muzzle brakes, plus this rifle wont get a whole lot of use it will be a more just to say I can gun.

I would like to put a Mcmillan a5 stock or an A3-5 I would like to feel them first, from what I have read a 1:10 twist sounds fairly standard and a 26-30 inch barrel to get the burn out of the powder, however in the searching I have done I cant see who sells barrels for these guns.

I know I am going to need a high quality scope but havent looked into that much yet, I also know hand loading will be a must if anyone has any good resources for learning about this please point me in the direction.

If anyone can give me some pointers on what I need and where to look that would be much appreciated

Thanks
 
A 7mm rem or wsm might be a better choice if recoil is a concern.

A big cannon might not be the best choice for a first LR rig. Recoil and cost go up from smaller more milder rounds.

Let us know how it works for you
 
The rifle you are describing has the ear marking of a great rifle!

Though it may be a great rifle, it is a costly way to start into the game. If you are reaching out past a grand, by how much exactly? Some other cartridges can do it with less recoil, lower ammunition costs and less barrel erosion.

As you are starting into long range shooting, reloading is another aspect of the game. Though long range shooting can be done without reloading, it is costly and availability of ammunition can be scarce. In regards to the 300RUM I can't think of anyone who produces a match round for it.

So while you are looking into what you would like, take a good look at the other things you will need.
 
If a RUM blows your hair back, go for it, it will certainly get the job done. As a dedicated LR rifle, put a good brake on, and bed it into a decent stock. That will take the mule out of it.
If your buddies are seriously into LR shooting, I'm sure they can assist you with setting up to reload and getting the most out of your gun. Half the fun of this game is helping friends spend their money!
 
I advise you to pass up the .300 Ultra in favor of a mild cartridge like a .223, a .243, a. 6.5X 55 or the .260 Remington, a 7-08 or a .308. The .300 Ultra looks good on paper, but it has some serious disadvantages in terms of a long range target rifle cartridge. Recoil cannot be overstated. Long range shooters tend to fire long strings, and a heavy kicker shooting 10 rounds in succession from prone or from a bench is no fun. The Ultra requires nearly double the powder charge of a .308 with the same bullet weight, and 3 times as much as a .223 making the cost of shooting an issue. One does not learn long range shooting without consuming large quantities of ammo. The .300 Ultra is a notorious barrel burner, and because accuracy is the name of the game, you'll have to replace the Ultra barrel after shooting far fewer rounds than with milder cartridges.

The long range shooting game is great, but you won't have much fun if you can't hit your target because you're getting pounded with recoil, or unable to get out shooting because its too expensive to participate.
 
There are many choices for long range shooting. Some better(more economical, more accurate, less recoil) choices are available especially if you decide to reload.

While not having the "big cannon, cool factor" one of your best choices may be in a 6mm like a Dasher or an XC in a heavier bullet like 105gr Berger Hybrid, 107gr SMK or 115gr DTAC. These are all very cheap to reload and extremely accurate at long range. Wind is the biggest issue with these bullets, they tend to get pushed around more easily than some of the higher BC bullets.

From there some of the 6.5mm would fit the bill quite well too. The .260AI, 6.5x284, 6.5 Swede are all good choices for long range work as well with a good choice of high BC bullets combined with good muzzle velocities.

Some of the best choices ballisticly come in the 7mm class. The 7mm in any of the "shortmag" flavours(7wsm, 7saum, 7-300wsm...) would suit you well. The larger cases like 7 rem mag and maybe 7 stw or ultramag are good too but now you are running larger case capacities and more recoil but still nowhere near the 300 Ultramag. The 7mm class has some of the best high BC bullet selection around. I have used the 162Amax, 168 and 180 Bergers and 175 and 180 Sierra Matchkings which are all great longrange bullets and this is only a small sampling of the many great shooting, high BC bullets on the market today.

While the bullet selection is getting better for the .30cals they are much heavier thus more recoil as well as higher case capacities.

If you were looking for a longrange elk or moose rig, I think the .300 ultra may be a good choice along with .338 Lapua, .338 Edge and even better .338Lapua improved. As for long range paper, the .300 Ultra would be one of my last choices.

Having said all of this, life is all about learning and I seem to have to learn every thing the hard way too so yes, get the .300 Ultramag and go shooting, while not nearly your best choice for that application, at least you'll have fun finding out you made the wrong choice so it's not all bad:).
 
if you only want to shoot paper an 1000m, all you need is a bullet that is still supersonic at this distance
300rum is a great cartridge for long range big game hunting because it has lots of power
but it kicks
if recoil is a major concern, 308 win will do the job
and your barrel will also last lot longer
 
the 6BR is accurate well beyond 1000 and can be shot all day l;ong and have 3 times the barrel life and a fraction of the recoil.

barrel for a 300 is any 300/308 cal barrel with the desired twist

you do not need to go huge to shoot long distance, in fact all the recoil makes it a poor choice. light recoilers like a 223 6BR or even a 260 are arguably more accurate and infinitely easier to shoot. all have far superior barrel life. Why burn 3 times more powder than you need to and spend double for bullets that work no better than those half the size and weight? ballistic coefficient is what makes a bullet more wind tolerant and the bc of smaller caliber bullets is far better than most 30s
 
I shoot various LR calibers, from a tight twist 223 to the 338 Lapua, and a 700P in 300 RUM is one of them. It is the only rifle I had a brake put on (and I own a lot of rifles). Get one if you want to, but I would start with a 6mm. Easy to shoot, easy to load for, easy to hit with. FWIW - dan
 
Hey my friend I'm no Pro at shoot by any means I recently purchased a 300RUM. IT has a Break on the barrel is has less recoil then a 243. I just finished developing a load for it and so far it has been an amazing cailber i haven't tired shooting past 550yrds but at 550 its a hit at our ranges gong every shot I'm running a Nightforce 5.5-22x56 NPR2 great scope cant wait to strech it out to a 1000yrds.

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another reason I do like the thought of the 300 is that it will take down the larger game like elk and moose.

I am not concerned about the recoil that just seemed to be the main reason people are steering away from the 300rum I would like to shoot one first but I do not know any one who has one, thanks for all the help so far I do think I will try one out shortly, I am not super concerned about the price of shooting the gun. the big bang guns get do get me going, I think I probably will end up buying one but we will see what happens
 
I have a 300 rum in an A-5 that I am starting to shoot tomorrow if things work out. Sure hope it works out good..definately will get a moose with it this year.
 
I believe there's a 300 RUM in a 700 Sendaro platform for sale on the EE. Bed it, throw a brake on it and you're good to go!
 
A friend of mine just bought a Rem 700 Sendero in 300 RUM to use for hunting and doesn't want to run a brake. I have the same rifle in 300 Win Mag so he had to 1 up me! After helping him build a load with 168 Bergers we did a lot of shooting to 700 yards with it. Make sure you shoot one before you buy it unless your prepared to put a brake on because I don't think the recoil is for everyone. Way more recoil than I care to shoot. I will stick to my baby 300 Win Mag or 338 Lapua with the brake. Thats my experiance with the RUM
 
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