Powder for the 45-70

[Andy]

H322 = only powder I will use in my 45-70's now...

Higginsons Surplus WC-735 using H322 loads is all I use.

 

[H4831]

Thanks for all the comments on the powders from you guys.
Johnn Peterson once sent me the Aug-Sept, 2007 issue of Handloader magazine. This issue reports on a tremendous amount of testing, of many different bullets, powders and pressure ranges, for the 1895 marlin 45-70.
Brian Pearce, the tester, states that among his favourite accuracy powders are, H322, H4895, Varget and H4198. These are all Hodgdon powders, but I don't think he is biased, as he has good words for several others.

 

[deertroy]

I don't have any information on light loads with cast bullets but I have shot a lot of 45/70 jacketed bullet loads in four different 45/70's. These rifles include: TCR-87 - 20" barrel, Browning 1886 - 26" barrel, TC Encore - 24" barrel and a Marlin 1895G - 18.5" barrel.

My favorite powder for both speed, accuracy and low pressure indications is AA2015. I am finding it difficult to obtain this powder as of late. Second choice would be H322.

Beleive it or not Remington 300 HP's have been amazingly accurate in all of these rifles.

 

[mojoman]

have any of you tried trailboss for plinling loads.

 

[Brutus]

The only plinking load I tried myself is the well known "The Load" of 13.0 grains of Red Dot powder. I used Idaho Territory 405 grain cast lead PB. Shot about like a 357 in noise and recoil. However this was before I had optics on my rifle, and the deviation from POI for "normal" handloads was considerable.

 

[a j cave]

in my Ruger #3 50gr of 3031 gives about 1750 fps and enough recoil to know you are shooting. I have a # of clover leaves fired with this load. It is not as good in my Marlin.

 

[Camp Cook]

I was shooting my 22" T/C Contender carbine Friday my favorite load for this gun is 54grs H322 + 325gr Hornady FTX recoil is stout but very bearable then I switched to my 48gr H322 + 430gr WFNGC's forgetting how much these loads recoil compared to the 325gr loads.

I have a 2-7X Redfield scope on this rifle and yes I am now wearing a nice little cut over my eyebrow...

 

[phishroy]

45-70 powder bullet info

Ok, well, here is a bit of dry info that i have produced in my marlin Guide gun in 45-70.
Needles to say, use this info at your own risk etc etc.....
TLG stands for triple lube grove
BB stands for bevel Base
Ok, here are some numbers:
45-70 GVT Marlin GG
Powder: Trail Boss
Bullet: 350grain Flatpoint Interlock Honaday
Primer: CCI LR Magnum

Charge mzl vel fps
14 grain 993.8
980.8
979.4
992.3
964
14.1 grain 982.7
981.5
986.3
998.5
995.7
969.7
988
932.5
14.5 grain 1015 ~1.5inch
1020
999.2
1011
1015
Powder: Trail Boss
Bullet: 405grainTLG 3lube grv bevel base
Primer: CCI LR

Charge mzl vel fps Coments
11.6 grains 933.8
946.9
948.1
12.5 grain 944
958
967.3
13 grain 998.4
1014
1004
998.5
997.6
988.6
986
988.2
986.7
985.5
Powder: Trail Boss
Bullet: 350grain SpeerFP
Primer: CCI LR

Charge mzl vel fps
14.1 grain 890.3
848.7
886.5
837
837.9

45-70 GVT Marlin GG
Powder: IMR 4759 SR
Bullet: 415grainTLG
Primer: CCI LR Magnum

Charge mzl vel fps
27 grain 1503
1509
1494
1483
1498

Powder: IMR4198
Bullet: 405grainTLG
Primer: CCI LR

Charge mzl vel fps
38 grains 1562
1527
1519
1504
38.5grains 1536
1568
1566
39grains 1621
1587
1594
1590
1591
39.5grains 1642
1638
1630
1620
40grains 1636
1665
1668
1621

Powder: IMR4198
Bullet: 350grain
Primer: CCI LR

Charge mzl vel fps
48.5grain 1997
1980
1944
1935
1971

Powder: IMR 3031
Bullet: 415grain leadTLG BB
Primer: win LR

Charge mzl vel fps vel spread fps
34 grain 1225 115
1134
1153
1148
1175
1149
1110

35 grain 1130 39
1131
1105
1122
1144

36 grain 1135 125
1116
1224
1241

37 grain 1304 111
1220
1224
1236
1284
1254
1193

38 grain 1274 54
1220
1230
1236

Powder: H322
Bullet: 415grain LeadTLG
Primer: CCI LR Magnum

Charge mzl vel fps
44 grain 1623
1631
1717
1461
1511
1603
1525
1563
1603
1527
1510
1601
1572
1540
1596
1633
1550