powder increase

Again. Theres been a shortage of powder in US for a while. Shortly after 22lr started to disappear, powder started going as well. Just like with 22lr, people on this site were ridiculed when they said the shortage is coming and to increase their purchase a bit so they arent caught with their pants down.

We're getting hit with a double whammy, shortage induced price rise, pkus the tanking off the dollar. Take whatever price you paid a year ago and multiply it by 1.30.

If people buy up the powder, turn around and sell it for 10 bucks more on EE and people buy it, why wouldnt a shop try the same? They are in the business of making money and if people are buying it, thats what the new price is. Welcome to capitalism. Dont like it? I hear liberals are working hard at trying to bring some failed system from across Atlantic. Maybe that would be better?

Dont forget that once the powder is sold they have to turn around and buy more at an inflated cost as well. If their new supply is constantly more $$ than what they sold it for previously, a shop may run out of capital.

Im sure when youre selling something used you never try to get top dollar? If you dont agree, dont buy, but next time the prices go down you better be stockpiling.
 
I've bought powder at anywhere from 10 to 50 bux a pound. For the amount of killing I get from a pound of powder, it's a bargin at any price.....
 
Red_Liner740 said:
Again. Theres been a shortage of powder in US for a while. Shortly after 22lr started to disappear, powder started going as well. Just like with 22lr, people on this site were ridiculed when they said the shortage is coming and to increase their purchase a bit so they arent caught with their pants down.

We're getting hit with a double whammy, shortage induced price rise, pkus the tanking off the dollar. Take whatever price you paid a year ago and multiply it by 1.30.

If people buy up the powder, turn around and sell it for 10 bucks more on EE and people buy it, why wouldnt a shop try the same? They are in the business of making money and if people are buying it, thats what the new price is. Welcome to capitalism. Dont like it? I hear liberals are working hard at trying to bring some failed system from across Atlantic. Maybe that would be better?

Dont forget that once the powder is sold they have to turn around and buy more at an inflated cost as well. If their new supply is constantly more $$ than what they sold it for previously, a shop may run out of capital.

Im sure when youre selling something used you never try to get top dollar? If you dont agree, dont buy, but next time the prices go down you better be stockpiling.
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The error in your logic is that some of us recently bought powder, this powder was imported from the USA this year and the markup and exchange was applied to bring it to the new price point, I personally paid $267 x2 (plus tax) for 8lb containers of benchmark and H4895... That's $33 a pound... So how can a vendor justify $50 per pound using the dollar tanking as an excuse when some retail stores are selling it for what it's really worth?...
 
There are hoarders buying .22LR ammo and powder at low rates and selling it on Facebook and here for almost 2X as much.
Paying the scalpers $50 for a pound of powder is not helping. Settle down and relax. It's defeating the point of reloading costs.
 
My logic also included shortage gouging. Obviously some retailers are leaning heavily towards that side of the equation.

"What is really worth" is what people are willing to pay for it. Obviously $50 powder sells otherwise we'd be laughing at them after a sea of "bumps" in EE or a layer of dust on the bottles at Retailers.
The market will self-correct once the supply reaches demand, at which point the $50 powder guys will be stuck with it until they start to lower their price. In the end it is a hobby.
Stock up, abstain, shop around or pay through your nose.

Hotwheels81 said:
The error in your logic is that some of us recently bought powder, this powder was imported from the USA this year and the markup and exchange was applied to bring it to the new price point, I personally paid $267 x2 (plus tax) for 8lb containers of benchmark and H4895... That's $33 a pound... So how can a vendor justify $50 per pound using the dollar tanking as an excuse when some retail stores are selling it for what it's really worth?...
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Maybe it's worth keeping in mind that for how rarely most dealers are able to get any supply the last 2yrs, if they only made a few dollars on that lb of powder, they gotta survive a long time before another shipment shows up again, could be 6 months or a year, and most aren't getting nearly the volume they could sell and in turn pay the overhead/survive. Making $10 a pound on 100,000lbs is not the same as $10/lb on 100 lbs and its gone until nobody knows when...
Of course there may be some exceptions, but in the end, its just business. I just hope the plants making the powder get enough $ to stay in business and keep making it cause I know their costs aren't going down.
 
Hotwheels81;11317553 I've been told flat out by store owners that since powder is hard to come by they are raising the prices "so one guy doesn't buy it all and others can still find it if they need it"... ..[/QUOTE said:
Like really this guy had to balls to tell a customer that. I doubt he really gives a rat's *$$ who buys the powder just as long as he gets his over inflated price for it. Our local gun shop ( privately owned) will only let people buy a certain amount of powder depending on how much he has in stock. His prices have gone up a bit since the Canadian dolllar has taken a dive but nothing drastic like other places. I was in there the other day and paid $37 plus tax for a lb of IMR 8208XBR
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If you're loading match ammo, you still save quite a bit even with the increase in price of powder and bullets. A box of 308 match ammo is around $35-40. I can still load it for a touch under $1/round so am saving up to 50% still.
If you're loading cast bullets, you save a lot; probably upwards of 70%+ versus retail. Of course cast loads are quite different and not really comparable to most jacketed retail ammo.
If you're loading bulk plinking ammo, not so much.
 
MadMarty said:
Anyone know a place with Varget for less than 47$ a pound? Just checked out a sponsor and that's the going rate at that business. Yuck!
Looking for 4-5lbs
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Cabelas in Regina has it in at 37 bucks a pd. 4064, Benchmark and a couple others. Order for pickup at a local store online is best way to get those prices, plus no shipping.
 
Well, its not like the cost of ammo hasnt gone up either. You still save reloading. Only thing you cant really touch is the surplus 54r and x39, maybe 223.

Buy and stockpile enough to survive these times and when it calms down and prices go back to "normal" stockpile again. Powder, bullets, primers dont have an expiry date.
 
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