Practicality of KSG's and other 'short' tactical shotguns..
- Thread starter sheekster1977
- Start date
all guns are practical
as long as it has ammo and functions properly.
prac·ti·cal [prak-ti-kuhl]
adjective
1.
of or pertaining to practice or action: practical mathematics.
2.
consisting of, involving, or resulting from practice or action: a practical application of a rule.
3.
of, pertaining to, or concerned with ordinary activities, business, or work: practical affairs.
4.
adapted or designed for actual use; useful: practical instructions.
5.
engaged or experienced in actual practice or work: a practical politician.
that last one made me laugh
as long as it has ammo and functions properly.
prac·ti·cal [prak-ti-kuhl]
adjective
1.
of or pertaining to practice or action: practical mathematics.
2.
consisting of, involving, or resulting from practice or action: a practical application of a rule.
3.
of, pertaining to, or concerned with ordinary activities, business, or work: practical affairs.
4.
adapted or designed for actual use; useful: practical instructions.
5.
engaged or experienced in actual practice or work: a practical politician.
that last one made me laugh
- Location
- Georgetown Ontario
Forget practical! In the posted video the smile at the end says it all!
But, the funny looks are half the fun.
The practicality in shooting trap and skeet is in the fact that it hones your skills for upland and waterfowl hunting. Not to mention that it requires a lot more skill than punching holes in a stationary paper "zombie" does. IFAIC that in itself makes it more fun, but whatever float's your boat. Realistically if it involves shooting guns there's going to be some fun to be had regardless.
I recently bought an 870 from a fellow CGNer. Great gun. A Plain Jane 18" barrelled "tactical" shotty with none of the "tacticool" stuff like picatinny rails all over the place to tear up your hands or snag on everything. Just a few, very simple, additions to the basic stock gun - better recoil pad, extended mag tube and a "no jam" follower in high viz yellow to make it easy to check that the mag tube is empty. But the biggest and single most useful adaptations he had done to it: he got the 18" barrel threaded for chokes.
That right there turns a "home defence" shotgun into a genuine "all around" tool. Just change the choke tube in the barrel, and it's good for everything from home defence to big game hunting with slugs to trap, skeet or any kind of birds.
From tests many people have done over the years with a variety of shotguns, the principal advantages of longer barrels are: 1. smoothness of swing when tracking flying targets; 2. less muzzle flash with both it and the noise further from the shooter's ears; and 3. somewhat greater muzzle velocity, although this is only really noticeable when the barrel length goes below 16". That's it. As far as shot pattern goes, that is much more dependent on choke restriction than barrel length. For things like trap or skeet shooting or duck hunting, any loss of shot concentration from using an 18" instead of a 30" barrel can be compensated for by choosing a slightly tighter choke.
If I ever spend the money for a KSG, I'll want it to be as "all around practical" as possible for a shotgun, so I'll invest the extra $100 or so to have a good gunsmith thread the barrel for one of the better makes of choke tubes, and then spend the further $200 to $300 to acquire a complete set of those quality choke tubes in everything from "cylinder" to "extra-full turkey" and usable for lead or steel shot.
Actually, I'm already in the process of acquiring that set of choke tubes for my current Remmy. The choke tubes themselves should be a once-in-a-lifetime buy, so in future, I'll just have to make sure any new shotgun(s) have barrel threading to fit.
My thoughts exactly..all the power to those who like shooting at stationary targets with a shotgun, and i've done it lots, but really seen no further point in that once i discovered trap/skeet.
Lets get one thing straight. The short tactical shotties like the ksg or DA grizzly arent really designed for utilitarian use. They arent optimum for hunting. The short barrel makes clay shooting harder than it already is. They have one specific purpose, and thats to be a street howitzer or breacher. In Canada, we cant really have that as a specific purpose for civilian use, so they just get relegated to a fun cool shotgun for the range.
TV-PressPass
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Mountains, Alberta
Uhh. What?
My shotgun doesn't live on a range.
And I don't breach doors or shoot people on the street, thanks.
My shotgun has a sacred purpose for civilian use.
Last edited:
Let's just put aside the KSG's 14+1 capacity for a moment shall we 
and try a Remington 870 Express Model No. 25568 (from William's Arms) with a 28" barrel (RC Mod choke) along with a DLASK Arms 12.5" 870 barrel and Hiviz MPB-TAC snap-on shotgun sight with a red lightpipe. I like it.
and try a Remington 870 Express Model No. 25568 (from William's Arms) with a 28" barrel (RC Mod choke) along with a DLASK Arms 12.5" 870 barrel and Hiviz MPB-TAC snap-on shotgun sight with a red lightpipe. I like it.
Last edited:
Shooter1of38
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Let's just put aside the KSG's 14+1 capacity for a moment shall we
Nice!
Haha, I am definitely the fool! I play trap and skeet with my 18.5 Benelli M4. I was playing beside a guy with his $8000 Beretta O/U and he made some snark comment. I just kindly reminded him that he could throw up 7 or more birdies and I could (theoretically lol) hit each one. Plus, I ended the set 25/25...he: 24/25. Whah, whah, whahhh HAHA.
haha..I did the same thing with my 18" Supernova. It was me, my buddy(who were total noobs), and two older veteran players on the skeet squad, and i got a few(not negative, but constructive) remarks on my gun...The thing is though, my Supernova shot like a dream! it was smooth and lite 'n stuff..mind you, i probably only hit 13/25..Plus, the M4 wouldn't be that bad for skeet seeing how it's semi auto n all..
Last edited:
