Pre.64 M70's

twincamharley said:
It is a 30-06

It was purchased from a Doctor in Kansas last year, who bought an entire collection from the estate of an ex USMC armourer that was stationed at Quantico.
The rifle is pristine, a 9.5 out of 10

No dress up for me :)
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That is an outstanding package all around.
Every once in a while one of our Forum members will show something very special and you did just that.
Thanks very much for sharing..
 
twincamharley said:
Here is my 1951
One of my favourites

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What a beauty!! Very classy package indeed.........
 
twincamharley said:
It is a 30-06

It was purchased from a Doctor in Kansas last year, who bought an entire collection from the estate of an ex USMC armourer that was stationed at Quantico.
The rifle is pristine, a 9.5 out of 10

No dress up for me :)
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Just lovely. A very nice find. Is it marked then? How does it shoot? Not many people will have the opportunity to fire a groundbreaking rifle system like that. Truly envious.
 
chuck nelson said:
Why is english so hard for you?
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Two first names? I envy you.

blargon said:
The ignore feature saves the headaches.
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Atta boy

AP said:
thanks - good idea ... its no longer amusing.
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Couldn't git

AP said:
double tap
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yer reply in qwick 'nuff?

Macarena Man said:
You may have good information ..... it's just too irritating trying to decipher the gibberish.
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Whut, I say whut the heck is a Mac Mac, how do you pernunce it?

Kevan said:
Yes, unfortunately....
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You know what Kevan, I surly expect better of you. Nuff said.

flashman said:
Ugh. Not when people quote it and you have to read it in spite.
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And to think you're coward enough to send insulting crap to me in p.m. form.

flashman said:
Every problem has a solution. Some have the advantage of being simple. :d

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Atta boy, pull yer pantelones up and grow the f**k up.

And to think I had a wee chat with the old gals at the choir club and this is what they told me to
tell you.........

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And to Mr. Biggly'un..............thank you............. :cheers:

I could be awff awn a holiday........such izz life.
 
kamlooky said:
Two first names? I envy you.

Atta boy

Couldn't git

yer reply in qwick 'nuff?

Whut, I say whut the heck is a Mac Mac, how do you pernunce it?

You know what Kevan, I surly expect better of you. Nuff said.

And to think you're coward enough to send insulting crap to me in p.m. form.

Atta boy, pull yer pantelones up and grow the f**k up.

And to think I had a wee chat with the old gals at the choir club and this is what they told me to
tell you.........

And to Mr. Biggly'un..............thank you............. :cheers:

I could be awff awn a holiday........such izz life.
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So ....... what's your point ?
 
flashman said:
For the '64 model year, Winchester put updated designs into production, using more modern and efficient manufacturing methods, in an attempt to stay profitable and compete with new and cheaper offerings from Remington - ie the 870 and 700 had recently been introduced.

It was a complete and total flop. It took years for Winchester to start to recover their reputation for quality and craftsmanship, and I think it's safe to say they never really succeeded.
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Agree that the '64 to '70's Winchester M70's weren't the rifle that the pre '64's were, but ... I do think that Winchester did truly succeed with a quality rifle into the '80's .....
Combined with a Winchester calibre ...... a 'classic'
Just my opinion .....
 
MD said:
The ones I've handled are too heavy for my taste.
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Exactly!
I bought a new 30-06 in the years prior to 1964. An older brother had a Model 70 pre 64 in 30-06 calibre with a K2.5 scope on it and he once gave it to me for a day moose hunt. The type of hunt where you hunt, walking and on your feet all day. The weight of that rifle completely turned me off a Model 70 Winchester, so it was not even in the running for deciding a new rifle.
The 30-06 I purchased was a Husqvarna with the FN Supreme action. I later put a Dayton trigger on it, the rifle is still in my gun room and not once have I ever regretted not getting a pre 64 Model 70.
About 1980 when Winchester was putting on a great advertising program, stating how well made their new Model 70 rifles were, I went into a gun store and examined one. I just couldn't see the quality in the machine fitting of it and when I tried the trigger I almost had to use two fingers to pull it!
 
H4831 said:
Exactly!
I bought a new 30-06 in the years prior to 1964. An older brother had a Model 70 pre 64 in 30-06 calibre with a K2.5 scope on it and he once gave it to me for a day moose hunt. The type of hunt where you hunt, walking and on your feet all day. The weight of that rifle completely turned me off a Model 70 Winchester, so it was not even in the running for deciding a new rifle.
The 30-06 I purchased was a Husqvarna with the FN Supreme action. I later put a Dayton trigger on it, the rifle is still in my gun room and not once have I ever regretted not getting a pre 64 Model 70.
About 1980 when Winchester was putting on a great advertising program, stating how well made their new Model 70 rifles were, I went into a gun store and examined one. I just couldn't see the quality in the machine fitting of it and when I tried the trigger I almost had to use two fingers to pull it!
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Exactly. I have a 1953 Husqvarna 270 on an FN action and whenever I picked up a pre-64 that is what I compared it to for carryability. It has some heft to it though. I recently acquired a Husqvarna lightweight 270 and that is like a mountain rifle for a "packin' around" rifle.
 
MD said:
Exactly. I have a 1953 Husqvarna 270 on an FN action and whenever I picked up a pre-64 that is what I compared it to for carryability. It has some heft to it though. I recently acquired a Husqvarna lightweight 270 and that is like a mountain rifle for a "packin' around" rifle.
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Everybody has their own preferences, there would be a lot of surplus rifles if we all liked one brand only.
Several years ago I gave my late Brother a mint l'50s Mod. 70 in 300 H&H for his birthday and at the time he had a lightweight Husky in 7X57 for Sheep hunting.
In spite of the extra weight the old Mod. 70 became his one and only Sheep rifle until he could no longer hunt.
Eventually I wound up with the Husky but it was disappointing because it had a very slow twist and would not stabilize bullets heavier than 150 gr.
 
flashman said:
For the '64 model year, Winchester put updated designs into production, using more modern and efficient manufacturing methods, in an attempt to stay profitable and compete with new and cheaper offerings from Remington - ie the 870 and 700 had recently been introduced.

It was a complete and total flop. It took years for Winchester to start to recover their reputation for quality and craftsmanship, and I think it's safe to say they never really succeeded.
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The pre-64's are definitely beautiful rifle's. Great game getter's in their day and now great collection classics.

What date would you say the complete and total flop era ended, if at all,.. for the post '64 Winchester M70 rifles?.

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Those of you (Hank and MD) talking about carrying a Pre 64 Mod. 70 around in the bush.
Have you ever packed a Parker Hale 1200 Series around for 8 hours?
Now those are dam heavy guns.
But, to each their own :)
I'm liking my Brno 21H in 7x57 more and more.
It aint a Wby and it aint a Magnum, but it sure feels nice.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
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