precision hunting rifle

ndb86 said:
don't quote me on this but buddy handloads and i think he said they are still about 5 bucks a bang.... i could be wrong on that though.personally i'm not a good enough shot and haven't had the practice to shoot that kinda distances (or the money to practice) but my buddy has the time money and practice and can easily make those shots consistanly and confidently. I can't/won't stop ya but like ya said practice practice practice.

i'm sure some others will chime in that have more experince than me. when i can hit the gong and 500 yards 8 out of 10 times with my .30.06 i think i'm a sniper picking off bin laden lol. so really i'm just giving you my experince i've had with my friend and the few times he's let me shoot his fancy rig. He'd let me shoot more, but he never lets me pay for ammo and i feel bad shootin' the damn thing.


anyways i'll shut up now and make way for teh more experince shooters. but talk to mystic. though i've never dealt with him myself everything i've ever heard about him has been good.
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You are dead wrong

Good idea
 
just go here http://www.longrangehunting.com/ if you want usefull without being preached too. or p.m mysticplayer he knows his stuff.it really amazes me how all you guys seem just want to bash the new guys that ask question isnt that what this place is for:confused:.just remember you were all where he is at one point learning so help the guy.i like the 7mm rem mag great under 1000 yards for deer size game, under the right condition easy to get ammo & lots of choices.just remember this is a target shooters section so you will get bashed for asking hunting questions.:rolleyes::HR:
 
Long-range hunting is no more unethical than shooting a running deer in the bush at 50 yards. It ALL depends on the skill of the shooter.

Some of the early posts in this thread make me laugh.

Here is how you can gauge whether or not you're ready to shoot at game at any given distance:

Bundle up in your hunting clothing. Put on your pack and hunting gear. Set up your targets along the towerline you're talking about. Walk along at random distances to the target. Get into your field shooting position, range the target, read the wind, dial in your corrections, take the shot. Come back tomorrow and do it again. When you can connect on a 10" circle 9 times out of 10 on the first shot of the day, then you are ready to shoot at a game animal at that range.

You will quickly learn that you will have to pass on some shots because of the circumstances. It doesn't all have to do with range, either. I would greedily take a shot at 600 yards at a broadside animal, standing still, with no wind and a clear shot from prone, over a 300 yards shot at a quartering animal in a brisk 25mph gusting cross wind.

You will certainly need a GOOD range finder like a Leica, Zeiss, or Swarovski if you plan on shooting much beyond 400-500 yards in the field. You'll need plenty of practice to determine elevation and wind corrections in various different conditions, and then make yourself a drop chart and tape it to your stock. You'll need the right optics- something clear, repeatable, and tough. You'll need an accurate rifle that is capable of sub-MOA accuracy. You'll need good bullets, and keep in mind that cartridges and headstamps make ZERO difference. What matters is that you have a good bullet and enough velocity to expand that bullet at range. Then you need a LOT of practice.

I would suggest something like a Savage or Tikka in 7-08, .280, or 7RM with the 162gr A-Max or 168gr Berger VLD, or something in .308" (.308W, .30-06, .300WSM, etc) with the 155gr Lapua Scenar. Others will work, but any of these would be good choices.

As far as scopes go, many will work, but you need the adjustments to be precise, repeatable, and rock-solid, above all.
 
Jordan Smith said:
Long-range hunting is no more unethical than shooting a running deer in the bush at 50 yards. It ALL depends on the skill of the shooter.

Some of the early posts in this thread make me laugh.

Here is how you can gauge whether or not you're ready to shoot at game at any given distance:

Bundle up in your hunting clothing. Put on your pack and hunting gear. Set up your targets along the towerline you're talking about. Walk along at random distances to the target. Get into your field shooting position, range the target, read the wind, dial in your corrections, take the shot. Come back tomorrow and do it again. When you can connect on a 10" circle 9 times out of 10 on the first shot of the day, then you are ready to shoot at a game animal at that range.

You will quickly learn that you will have to pass on some shots because of the circumstances. It doesn't all have to do with range, either. I would greedily take a shot at 600 yards at a broadside animal, standing still, with no wind and a clear shot from prone, over a 300 yards shot at a quartering animal in a brisk 25mph gusting cross wind.

You will certainly need a GOOD range finder like a Leica, Zeiss, or Swarovski if you plan on shooting much beyond 400-500 yards in the field. You'll need plenty of practice to determine elevation and wind corrections in various different conditions, and then make yourself a drop chart and tape it to your stock. You'll need the right optics- something clear, repeatable, and tough. You'll need an accurate rifle that is capable of sub-MOA accuracy. You'll need good bullets, and keep in mind that cartridges and headstamps make ZERO difference. What matters is that you have a good bullet and enough velocity to expand that bullet at range. Then you need a LOT of practice.

I would suggest something like a Savage or Tikka in 7-08, .280, or 7RM with the 162gr A-Max or 168gr Berger VLD, or something in .308" (.308W, .30-06, .300WSM, etc) with the 155gr Lapua Scenar. Others will work, but any of these would be good choices.

As far as scopes go, many will work, but you need the adjustments to be precise, repeatable, and rock-solid, above all.
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So much of this post is bang on, that I can bypass the savage/tikka thing.......grin

But hey, the rest of it is pretty well said!

Especially the 162 amax in .284" thing.....and the 155 scenar thing.....That 162amax though, thats a pretty interesting projectile.

Nicely worded Jordan.
 
KodiakHntr said:
So much of this post is bang on, that I can bypass the savage/tikka thing.......grin

But hey, the rest of it is pretty well said!

Especially the 162 amax in .284" thing.....and the 155 scenar thing.....That 162amax though, thats a pretty interesting projectile.

Nicely worded Jordan.
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I assume a guy that is just getting into the game would opt for a Tikka or Savage over something a little pricier and aesthetically pleasing. :D

The 162gr A-Max puts a smile on my face...
 
True enough.

My Montana REALLY likes that 162amax....Although, I have yet to see a bullet it won't fling sub-moa to well past 500 yet. (Sorry to rub salt in the wound there, how's the Montana search going?)
 
KodiakHntr said:
True enough.

My Montana REALLY likes that 162amax....Although, I have yet to see a bullet it won't fling sub-moa to well past 500 yet. (Sorry to rub salt in the wound there, how's the Montana search going?)
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You bastage. Haha. I actually just bought a Montana 7WSM from a guy in Alaska. The thing has supposedly had less than 50 rounds put through it, the metal has been coated professionally in Gun Metal colour Cerakote, and comes with a Leup FX3 6x42 w/ MOA CDS elevation turret, Talley LW's, and a new bag of WW brass and Redding Deluxe FL dies. He sold me the package for $1,300US. I'm not TOO bitter about your Montana anymore... :D I used Prophet River Rifles to import the rifle for me, so I should have it in hand in about 8 weeks. I can't wait! I guess I'll just have to satiate my anxiety by smacking my targets with my .280 flinging the 162AM at 2947fps average into 1/2MOA at 600 yards *grin*

I'm glad your Montana has turned out so well for you. I knew it was going to be a shooter when Colin sent me pics and info about the accuracy he was getting with it. You got a great deal on that gun *thumbs up*
 
Laffin'

Its seems to be working out alright....

Who'd you snake one off of in AK? If I'd of known about another one I'd of bought it too....

Pretty tempted to pick one up from one of the AK contingent in 223 and have it punched.
 
Yeah, I'll snatch another up if one becomes available in the near future ;)

I picked mine up from "Calvin" on 24hourcampfire. I was lucky to call 1st in line. There were about 3 or 4 other guys that were about 30 minutes too late...
 
Yeah, he's been a great guy to deal with.

BTW, I just spoke with Marshal at Matrix bullets, and he says that his 190gr VLD will stabilize in a 9" twist barrel. Any idea what the twist rate is like in the Montana 7WSM? I'm thinking of trying a few 190gr VLD's just for the heck of it...
 
I've seen everything from 9" to 10" on the internet. I called Kimber this morning, and they don't even seem to have any records on file regarding the twist rate. I was just curious if you'd gone to the effort of measuring your twist yet :)
 
Hadn't bothered actually....But I've only run a couple of passes down the tube with a rod before I started to pound moly....

Probably almost time to think about cleaning though....Got a fair jag of rounds down the pipe.

Although, still seems to be able to ring 1000 yard steel pretty reliably, so I'm likely good for a while yet.
 
And to be honest, the amax is about the heaviest I was interested in shooting anyway.

If it ain't an amax, its a 120TSX or Varmint......
 
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