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Buddy, try out a good .222 Remington rifle with good optics sometime.
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Buddy, try out a good .222 Remington rifle with good optics sometime.
Trajectory and 500 yard energy comparisons.
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Originally Posted by noneck180 View Post
I have never shot a group under 2" at 100, hope to one day, after reading all these posts in the Precision Rifles Forum, makes me feel a lot better.
Buddy, try out a good .222 Remington rifle with good optics sometime.
The 222 Remington is a very accurate cartridge and the parent case for the 20 EXTREME. That is where the comparison ends. Here is how they compare using 40 grain V-Max bullets ( 3650 MV in 20 EXTREME) at 500 yards.
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Originally Posted by noneck180 View Post
I have never shot a group under 2" at 100, hope to one day, after reading all these posts in the Precision Rifles Forum, makes me feel a lot better.
Buddy, try out a good .222 Remington rifle with good optics sometime.
The 222 Remington is a very accurate cartridge and the parent case for the 20 EXTREME. That is where the comparison ends. Here is how they compare using 40 grain V-Max bullets ( 3650 MV in 20 EXTREME) at 500 yards.
That is true. Equipment can make a big difference. Without a decent setup you can't get beyond a certain point.
For instance I used to own a .223 that could not shoot consistently better than 1 1/8 or so @ 100 yards. I use the word consistently because it once shot group under 0.25" at 100 yards. But doing it once means nothing at all.
I now have a .308 that is a reasonably nice setup with decent glass and it'll do at 200 yards pretty much what the .223 would at 100 yards.
Once you get a decent piece of equipment though, then you learn about all of the things that you need to improve as a shooter.
.For me now its black powder cartridge rifles. If I could get any of mine to do a consistent 1.5 MOA at 200yards and beyond, I'd be tickled pink.
And then there is offhand shooting.....
Chris.
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Excellent work Iclund1946.
I have no doubt in your efforts, as it's all there in front of us, thanks to wildcaters like yourself.
Persons like yourself truly advance ballistics on a daily basis!
Myself I don't mind one wildcat in my rifle cabinet. But mine begins an ends, with the mortar-like trajectory of my .458 X 2 inch American in an FN Mauser action.
Everything else I own are factory cartridges.
Cheers!
I have no doubt in your efforts, as it's all there in front of us, thanks to wildcaters like yourself.
Persons like yourself truly advance ballistics on a daily basis!
Myself I don't mind one wildcat in my rifle cabinet. But mine begins an ends, with the mortar-like trajectory of my .458 X 2 inch American in an FN Mauser action.
Everything else I own are factory cartridges.
Cheers!
geese why even type that out? the whole point of this thread is people exaggerate there shooting and it seems like your trying to prove yours with a bunch of who cares info.
Didn't type it out just copied and pasted spread sheet. Maybe you don't care but apparently others do. If I had just told you what I had done you would have come back with "BS". I am prepared to back-up my claims with facts.
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Iclund I appreciate you pasting that because it shows me a bit how others work up their loads, which is very valuable to someone new like me.
I have only ever used 1 type of bullet, 1 type of powder, 1 type of primer, and 1 type of case. It pays to buy a quality rifle from a quality dealer.
1/4 MOA all day long, every day. Some days better. No shot is ever wasted trying to reinvent the wheel. Works for me.
1/4 MOA all day long, every day. Some days better. No shot is ever wasted trying to reinvent the wheel. Works for me.
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Pfftt....I shot a hair off the balls of a blowfly at 1000 m....from the hip....
with your SKS no less
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I have only ever used 1 type of bullet, 1 type of powder, 1 type of primer, and 1 type of case. It pays to buy a quality rifle from a quality dealer.
1/4 MOA all day long, every day. Some days better. No shot is ever wasted trying to reinvent the wheel. Works for me.
I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or truthful.
It's similar to golf... I actually did drive 400yd once... Downhill on a rock hard fairway with a huge tailwind. The fact that my average drive is closer to 220-230 is why I don't tell people I can drive 400...
Jeff
100% truthful. Recipe was given to me when I bought my gun. 1/4 MOA all day long, every day.
If the group is not 1/4 MOA it is because I failed to be consistent with the loads. Shooter error is almost nil with a 20 lb rifle and a hair trigger
If you have never spent time behind the type of high end tactical rifle I use, you will never believe or never understand the high degree of precision.
I have only ever used 1 type of bullet, 1 type of powder, 1 type of primer, and 1 type of case. It pays to buy a quality rifle from a quality dealer.
1/4 MOA all day long, every day. Some days better. No shot is ever wasted trying to reinvent the wheel. Works for me.
Please, don't stop there.........tell us how it's done. What rig are you shooting and your accessories
Whats your technique?
Thank you. I joined this forum in order to share information in the hopes that I might learn something and that others might learn from me. I haven't been very active because I have been busy on my wildcatting projects and my health keeps me from having too much fun. If you PM me with your email address I will send you the original spreadsheet, which is much easier to read.
100% truthful. Recipe was given to me when I bought my gun. 1/4 MOA all day long, every day.
If the group is not 1/4 MOA it is because I failed to be consistent with the loads. Shooter error is almost nil with a 20 lb rifle and a hair trigger
If you have never spent time behind the type of high end tactical rifle I use, you will never believe or never understand the high degree of precision.
Stories like that only impress people that don't know any better.....however, if your ever in south west sask, and have this mythical rifle with you, I would love to see it in action.
It is being offered for sale in precision EE. You can see it there. Or you can buy one at Alberta Tactical rifle.
Technique is really straight forward:
Extend bipod legs, place rifle on ground, set rear bag in place, acquire target, measure distance (with scope or rangefinder), dope wind, refer to your personally constructed drop chart, click, and shoot. (Nice to have a guy beside you tell where you are hitting.)
Keep in mind, I am not a F-class shooter. I enjoy long range shooting and hunting.
We'd all like to see it in action, if it does what he says it's one of the most consistently accurate rifles and he is one of, if not the most consistent shooters the world has ever seen.....
We'd all like to see it in action, if it does what he says it's one of the most consistently accurate rifles and he is one of, if not the most consistent shooters the world has ever seen.....
It is not your daddy's .303, rest assured.
Go see Rick at Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply. Ask if you can try one out one day.
I will repeat myself: the loads must be 100% consistent. Shooter error is minimal with a 20 lb gun and a hair trigger.
Do you understand what 1/4 MOA accuracy is Oscar?
