Prefit vs Barrel Blank

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Pondering the next build. Very happy with my last build where I used a Krieger Barrel blank but I want to be a little more cost conscious on my next one.

My question: Are ( Canadian made ) prefits like the Remage barrels just as accurate as starting with a quality blank ?

My last build gave me .5 moa at 500 yards if I did my part ( which was often a big IF lol.. ). My goal on this rifle is a 6.5 CM or similar for plinking at 500 as that is the furthest berm at the range that will do the same as my last one only a bit cheaper if possible without giving up accuracy.
 
Pondering the next build. Very happy with my last build where I used a Krieger Barrel blank but I want to be a little more cost conscious on my next one.

My question: Are ( Canadian made ) prefits like the Remage barrels just as accurate as starting with a quality blank ?

My last build gave me .5 moa at 500 yards if I did my part ( which was often a big IF lol.. ). My goal on this rifle is a 6.5 CM or similar for plinking at 500 as that is the furthest berm at the range that will do the same as my last one only a bit cheaper if possible without giving up accuracy.
I have used several prefits from IBI, and they are very accurate right out to 1K.
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Some pre-fit barrels are made on purpose made very heavy and accurate machines. At least in the case of Lothar Walther. Most rifle smiths would not have that kind of machinery. I have had several pre-fits and several rifle smith chambered barrels. Not a huge difference. The barrel brand was more likely to make a difference.
edi
 
Looking at IBI's prices, a barrel nut prefit is competitive with a blank plus gunsmithing. I very much doubt that the quality of the basic barrel is any different. Might gunsmith installation be superior? Maybe, maybe not. If you can do a barrel nut installation yourself, it might make sense. If you are already set up to do the machining yourself, starting with a blank would be less expensive.
 
I put a custom 6.5 PRC together for my hunting rifle a few years back with a smith. Carbon Proof barrel. Puts them into a tight group, and practice out to 1100 m with it.

Then decided I wanted a bench rifle so I don't shoot out the 6.5 PRC so quickly. I went with a prefit IBI barrel in 6.5 CM, and put things together at home on the bench myself with no fancy tools. Sitting in a chassis I don't need to worry about bedding, or fitting, as it is a perfect fit always. Taking the barrel completely off for a good cleaning is easy with little re-zero work after.

Was shooting .5" or better groups with it regularly and shoot with it out to our range max of just under 1400m. Was out last weekend and was hitting the gong at 1400m with regularity. It was a bit windy and shifting, but I had several hits in a row.
1000m hits are a no brainer.

Best part about putting it together at home was I did tighten it a bit past the go gauge, and when using new brass I don't need to worry about 1st round stretch on the brass. No need for wasting the components for doing that. It has over 3K rounds down it now and almost ready to order another IBI barrel for it, but this time a different caliber. The 6.5CM is still shooting .75" groups after running it hard for most of its life. I mean 2950 fps with 139 gr lapua tips hard, for 50 round strings. This from a 26" barrel. The last rounds I had for it I shot last weekend. 112 rounds, that I shot in about 40 min at ranges from 500 m out to 1400m.

I have no qualms with going prefit and barrel nut combo, and I know many don't like that. I'm okay with saving a few $$ hundred in smith costs and putting it together myself and not worrying about shipping and the time it takes for the smith work. Don't get me wrong the smith have their place and are needed, but it is a new world with prefit actions and barrels.
 
IBI prefit shoots as good as any rifle I have ever shot

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Looking at IBI's prices, a barrel nut prefit is competitive with a blank plus gunsmithing. I very much doubt that the quality of the basic barrel is any different. Might gunsmith installation be superior? Maybe, maybe not. If you can do a barrel nut installation yourself, it might make sense. If you are already set up to do the machining yourself, starting with a blank would be less expensive.
Most "at home" smiths don't have taper attachments for their lathes. This can make the process tedious at best.

The other issue most "at home" smiths don't have auto cooling lubricant on their cutting tools while turning down the barrels.

This isn't an issue if the smith has the patience to make small cuts and allow things to cool between cuts to ambient temperature.

Other things, like half rest adjustments and placing the half rest in the proper location on the barrel, are also needed.

Then comes another issue, "real working length" on the bed between centers.

People can go on and on about offsetting the tail stock for the proper taper, but for those doing it regularly, it's best done when the barrel is turned between centers, using a "dog leg" attachment to hold the barrel, with the "leg" inserted into a slot on the back plate.

I haven't tried one of the "Remage" type barrels, but I will be ordering one in the morning from JC Custom Barrels, out of New Brunswick.

I don't have a 280AI reamer, don't want to be bothered with the tedious chore of profiling a barrel, then fluting it, although I have the tooling.

The cost of this custom stainless barrel, with fluting, chambering, choice of twist, length, and rifling profile, as well as the retaining nut, is about the same cost as it would be for a similar grade blank, and I don't have to purchase another reamer for a one off job.

I helped a friend swap out a barrel on a Savage. The threads were snug all the way to the lock up point where the jam nut was snugged up to the receiver. When this happened, there wasn't any noticeable movement. We did it all in the lathe to keep everything true during assembly/lock up.

The completed rifle shot quite well. It was barreled with a 308 Palma, precut chamber. MOA or less groups at 100 yds are the norm with this rifle, with good Hirtenberger surplus ammo. Sub moa groups are the norm with his hand loads.

The barrel came from a different maker, but JC has a good name, and I'm going to try one out.

I know JC isn't a banner advertiser, so you can remove this if it offends anyone, but he is a Canadian barrel maker and his prices are very competitive.

After I get the barrel and install it, I will come back with a report, if I remember.
 
I have three barrels that JC Cutom has done for me. All are pre fit, nutted and shoot very well.
Two are for a Remington action and one is for a large shank savage.
 
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