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Anyone have experience with these scopes? Any reviews, rants, raves or opinions other than that they're hideously expensive?

Specifically I'm looking at the 3-15x50 Light Tactical scope.
 
I have been using one for a few years now(the 5-25) and have nothing but the best things to say about them. They truely are head and shoulders above most offerings out there. Once you get into the $3000 price range I thing that phenomenal optics, bullet proof design and superb performance are expected out of every scope in this class.
The nice thing is that they were recently bought out by a Canadian company as well (I believe the parent company of Armament Technology, Tangent Theta) so I don't believe they have to leave the country to get serviced.
There are a few other great scopes out there in this class like S&B, USO...
Regardless, I don't beliieve there is a better scope on the market.
 
What sort of conditions have you been using it in? I am largely looking for a hunting scope, with a side of target shooting. I'd be hesistant to bring something like this out into the field unless I hear some reports of how rugged it is.
 
I have both the 5-25x and the 3.5-15x regular (non-light) scopes. They're built like tanks. The US Marines use the standard 3.5-15x on their sniper rifles. I wouldn't hesitate to take any of the Premier scopes hunting.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
What sort of conditions have you been using it in? I am largely looking for a hunting scope, with a side of target shooting. I'd be hesistant to bring something like this out into the field unless I hear some reports of how rugged it is.
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People hunt with Tasco's without any issues and you're worried about a Premier?!
 
They have been in the game for many years, not because they make stuff that falls apart. their light scopes have been well thought out, well tested and CAN take all the abuse you intend to give it in hunting situations. Their hunting thougths and yours are likely to differ. they are thinking along the lines of getting banged around in a land rover, or land cruiser miles from any town, and thousands of miles from any service center. If you have any hesitation at all then buy a swarovski, they are light and can take the abuse, as can the S&B hunting line. you will regret it years down the road when you don't have the scope you wanted, which is a premier light. buy the thing and don't look back.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
Mostly I'm worried because high quality does not always mean that it's sturdy. Sometimes the cheap stuff can take more abuse.
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You could drop your Premier, S&B, USO and NF out of a 2 story building on a soft landing (meaning, other than concrete) and the scope will still function perfectly.

Try that with a Tasco and you may well be shooting into space. Actually that or in the ground two feet in front of you.

I understand that you're gathering information for your custom build; build either a high quality hunting rifle or a high quality precision/accuracy rifle. You'll see that lugging around an 18lbs rig on a stalk hunt will get old REAL fast. More importantly, the magnification, FFP/SFP and FOV may just not be suited for hunting either.

My humble 2cents.
 
I have 2 5X25's and they are top shelf, if I had to consider something else it might be the new Bushnell HDMR Gen 2??? part of that is curiosity. However the scope gets good reviews and has all the important features IMO, 34mm tube, FFP, 3X21 power,MIL/MIL. Tac Ord can help out with the Premier purchase or PGWDTI, ATRS. Buy once cry once!!!! :)
 
BenL said:
I understand that you're gathering information for your custom build; build either a high quality hunting rifle or a high quality precision/accuracy rifle. You'll see that lugging around an 18lbs rig on a stalk hunt will get old REAL fast. More importantly, the magnification, FFP/SFP and FOV may just not be suited for hunting either.

My humble 2cents.
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So you think the reticle would be too fine at low magnification for hunting?

And what of the magnification, do you think it's too little? I'm not planning on trying any long range, 500+ meter shots. In fact I can't really imagine taking a shot at over 250m or so.

I'm not planning on ordering online without first getting a look at it, but I need ideas of what to look at in the store. It's a bit impractical to start at one end of the optics counter and check them all sequentially.
 
If you have never used a FFP try and get a look through one before purchasing. The reticle is pretty fine at a low power settings and against dark backgrounds may be a bit hard to see (although illuminated would be fine).
I had a PH 3.5-15 and it is a beauty scope, but it is heavy for a hunting rifle as well.
 
If you want a really nice FFP scope that works well at both high and low magnification, and is extremely small and light, check out the March 3-24x42 FFP. It is smaller in size than the 3.5-10x40 Leupolds. At 3x, the thick outer posts close in and the reticle looks like a heavy duplex reticle. I've won CQB matches with this scope on an AR and had no problem picking up the crosshairs quickly against the mostly black Fig. 11 targets.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
So you think the reticle would be too fine at low magnification for hunting?

And what of the magnification, do you think it's too little? I'm not planning on trying any long range, 500+ meter shots. In fact I can't really imagine taking a shot at over 250m or so.

I'm not planning on ordering online without first getting a look at it, but I need ideas of what to look at in the store. It's a bit impractical to start at one end of the optics counter and check them all sequentially.
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I do - It'll all depend of course what type of hunting you plan on doing; will it only be flat field hunts (you reference to 250m or so) from a ground or elevated blind, shooting for a solid and stable rest? Or will you also be using it for thick bush moose hunting with shot at much closer ranges? If so, the reticle can be will be pretty darn thin (depending which of course, but generally speaking) and could easily get lost in the environment (tree branches and against the darker tones of the forest).

Why would it be impractical to look at every scope? You're planning on dropping $9,000 for your custom build (I still am of the opinion that a real heavy tactical and precision rig will make for a poor stalking hunting rifle, unless you ONLY hunt from a blind), why the heck would you not look through every single scope there is at the store ;)
 
My High end scope is a 5-25 x58 T-Pal, one of the brands mentioned here.

A couple of things about these "high enders" worth mentioning, especially since you're a hunter. The optics and the coatings on them are durable, still, even with proper lens pens etc for doing the job, you really ought to try and keep lens cleaning to a minimum if you can. To this end when hunting you'll probably use either a clear lens cap (muting the effect of the optics you're paying for) or a honeycomb sun shade (somewhat better Idea). The second thing worth mentioning is the law of diminishing returns. That extra couple of thousand you're paying for the utmost in 1000 yd + shooting isn't really worth that much at 250 yds. Durability ? If its like a USO, you'll break your rifle all to hell before you break that scope.
 
whatever you do make sure you look through it, at the high level the glass can be significantly different between two users. How the glass is ground affects eyes differently. For me S&B is a much clearer optic than Premier and Zeiss, to my brother the opposite is true. It has everything to do with our individual vision and shape of the lenses in our eyes. make sure you buy the one that is right for you. the difference is quite significant to us, mind you we both have keen eyes.
 
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