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Pretty disappointed with Talleys on my Anschutz.
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SomebodyTookMyName
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I've never understood the obsession with Talley rings- some folks seem enamoured with em, but I really don't care for them.
I've worked in gun shops for many years, and mounted many many hundreds of scopes, and for the price, Talley rings are honestly some of the worst I've seen...
I've seen incorrect-length screws and stripped screw heads out of the box, but what concerns me most is that they're almost always out of alignment by a pretty large margin. I've seen them scrape finish off of scope tubes, even bend tubes without any excessive torque on the screws. They're about the worst name-brand rings around in my opinion, maybe with the exception of the old Weaver 2-screw steel tops ("dammit, the crosshair was level, now it's not") and factory Ruger dovetail rings.
I've worked in gun shops for many years, and mounted many many hundreds of scopes, and for the price, Talley rings are honestly some of the worst I've seen...
I've seen incorrect-length screws and stripped screw heads out of the box, but what concerns me most is that they're almost always out of alignment by a pretty large margin. I've seen them scrape finish off of scope tubes, even bend tubes without any excessive torque on the screws. They're about the worst name-brand rings around in my opinion, maybe with the exception of the old Weaver 2-screw steel tops ("dammit, the crosshair was level, now it's not") and factory Ruger dovetail rings.
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- Nova Scotia
I just had luck with them on my Savage. Guess the marketing of well they are one piece so there shouldn't be miss alignment from the base to the rings. Welp I was wrong.
I suggest a 20 moa mount and Burris insert rings. - dan
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- Nova Scotia
Thanks, I'm considering them.
Only used Talleys once (worked great) but I can relate. Bought Leupold 30mm rings for my CZ 527 one time, the most I'd ever spent on rings. All good, but when I eventually downsized the scope on that rifle and removed it, I discovered the machining on the inside of the ring was rough in one spot, and it damaged the scope tube. Was the second-most expensive scope I'd ever bought too. Couldn't remember which dealer I'd bought the rings from or I'd have returned them, and didn't even want to list them for sale in the EE even WITH that caveat/disclosure.
Still have them if anyone has a 527 and has the necessary equipment to lap/smooth-out.
Still have them if anyone has a 527 and has the necessary equipment to lap/smooth-out.
SomebodyTookMyName
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That's precisely it- great marketing, and a false thought that a "one piece" ring is somehow incapable of being out-of-alignment.
Nothing to do with Talley. Zero MOA base will only get you to 50/75 yards. You need a 10 or 20 moa for 100 yards.
.22 drop 6/7 inches a 100 yards. The Tally rings work great and as advertised.You picked up the wrong base for your shooting.
No matter the brand..thats all you gonna get from a 0 moa base on a .22.
Your Tasco have also probably a short range of elevation. Don’t expect greatness out of a cheap scope.
.22 drop 6/7 inches a 100 yards. The Tally rings work great and as advertised.You picked up the wrong base for your shooting.
No matter the brand..thats all you gonna get from a 0 moa base on a .22.
Your Tasco have also probably a short range of elevation. Don’t expect greatness out of a cheap scope.
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No offense but that is incorrect. I shot ALL my 22LR to 100 yards without the need of a 10+ MOA base. So saying that you need 10 MOA to shoot 100Y is false.
As I made 100Y submissions using my 1022 with a Tasco 6-24, a Cooey with a 3-12 Fitco. Then I shot my TOZ 8 out to 100.
The cheap Tasco you made fun of is a well-known benchrest scope back in the day. So it should at least zero to 50Y.
The op does zero at 50.
And yes I am correct. His scope do not have the elevation range for a zero base. This is the case for all Anschutz.
The OP shoot a Annie 64. No baee, Tally or other will work till he change it to 10 moa.
I shoot benchrest in competition for the last 25 years and seen this often with new guy to .22
Tasco a benchrest scope ? .you make me laugh , Tasco has alway been a cheap brand..nobody use that in benchrest, at club level or plinking, why not, but thats it.
And yes I am correct. His scope do not have the elevation range for a zero base. This is the case for all Anschutz.
The OP shoot a Annie 64. No baee, Tally or other will work till he change it to 10 moa.
I shoot benchrest in competition for the last 25 years and seen this often with new guy to .22
Tasco a benchrest scope ? .you make me laugh , Tasco has alway been a cheap brand..nobody use that in benchrest, at club level or plinking, why not, but thats it.
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Im the OP. Talk to me directly not like you talking about me to someone else. Whatever man, way to make bench rest people look like dicks, ####ting on someone starting off.
Tell me how does a 11mm rail on a Anchutz differs on a Russian Toz that you need moa bases? Funny I see alot of Anschutz on RFC with this scope zeroed to 50yards. I don't see no 10 moa bases on them.
You say it's an Anschutz thing. I went to a small bore F class shoot. I didnt see any MOA bases on any rifles. Some just had utg dovetail to weaver adapters on weaver rings, no issue zeroing.
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Talley rimfire rings suck. The ones I had which mounted directly to the 11mm rail loosened not only the clamp part but the scope as well whenever you adjusted them. It meant that every time you had to re-level the scope and reset the eye relief. I threw them away and replaced them with a DIP rail and picatinny rings. I would never go back nor recommend Talleys to anyone.
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Talked to the guy that runs F class at our club. He ran a 40 year old tasco without issues, he doesn't run any MOA bases on his 54 and 64, even with his Sightron.
I till feel the bases are a issue.
I till feel the bases are a issue.
You should absolutely not need a tapered base(s) with added MOA to shoot at 50m.
Do the Talleys have front and rear specific bases or directional bases? If yes, it could be that you have them reversed and sloping the wrong way.
I cannot recommend strongly enough that you ditch the Talley rings and based and switch to a picatinny rail and ring combo. Your scope should have more than enough elevation and windage adjustment to zero at 50m with a 0 MOA base.
Do the Talleys have front and rear specific bases or directional bases? If yes, it could be that you have them reversed and sloping the wrong way.
I cannot recommend strongly enough that you ditch the Talley rings and based and switch to a picatinny rail and ring combo. Your scope should have more than enough elevation and windage adjustment to zero at 50m with a 0 MOA base.
I don't understand why it has anything to do with the rings.
You cannot zero at 100 yard, shouldn't it be the fault of the scope being out of elevation adjustment?
But again I have never seen a 22lr rifle that cannot zero at 100 yard regardless whatever the scope it's mounted. Zeroed at 50 yard, 22lr drops only about 7-8 inch at 100 yard, which is 7-8MOA.
Even 200 yards, 22lr drops about 40-50 inch which is about 25-30 MOA.
Maybe as one post suggested the talley is reverse canted that eats up your scope elevation? That's weird.
Tasco made some good scopes back in the day. Made in Japan, good glass. It isnt a nightforce, but it will certainly do the job. I probably own 40 scopes or so, and still have a couple of old Tascos. One is on one of my Anschutz's, the other on a 6mm-284. Have had them both for around 30 years, no issues so far. - dan
On my Anschutz 54 action, I have a set of Kelbly Anschutz dovetail rimfire rings. They shipped to Canada no problem. I am really impressed with their quality. The tolerances for the dovetail on the base are very tight and precise. I can take the scope off the rail (with rings on), and re-mount on the rail and the scope maintains zero. Done this many times, switching between scope and aperture sights.
The dovetail grips on the Kelbly rings were very sharp out of the box, with a slight burr I guess, because I needed to take my finest file on a Leatherman and ever so lightly just barely run it along the dovetail edges to take off the burr so it could slide onto the rail. The dovetail bases slide on tight with a slight friction which is wonderful - very precise. I don't even bother torqueing the base screws. Just finger tight with the allen key.
Zero'd at 50m with my Sightron 45x45, no problem dialing 7 MOA up for 100m using subsonic target ammo.
Unfortunately it looks like Kelbly is not making these Anschutz rings any more? I just checked their website and cannot find them listed. If interested, maybe give them a call to see if they are between production runs, or maybe have some in stock but not listed.
The dovetail grips on the Kelbly rings were very sharp out of the box, with a slight burr I guess, because I needed to take my finest file on a Leatherman and ever so lightly just barely run it along the dovetail edges to take off the burr so it could slide onto the rail. The dovetail bases slide on tight with a slight friction which is wonderful - very precise. I don't even bother torqueing the base screws. Just finger tight with the allen key.
Zero'd at 50m with my Sightron 45x45, no problem dialing 7 MOA up for 100m using subsonic target ammo.
Unfortunately it looks like Kelbly is not making these Anschutz rings any more? I just checked their website and cannot find them listed. If interested, maybe give them a call to see if they are between production runs, or maybe have some in stock but not listed.
