Pretty unimpressed with my vtr

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The impulse to buy and desire to get something different than the other dozen 10/22's I've had in the last half decade prompted me to buy an overpriced vtr.

Went to a gun store in Saint john and my eyes fell upon it. I bought the model with the adjustable stock. Seemed a little heavy but whatever. Looked like a neat little toy (had no idea ruger had made its own ar15 mockery). So I bought it and first thing's first from the factory they somehow managed to crossthread the buffer tube into thje receiver. The stock was loose and when I went to tighten the tube but I unthreaded the tube and notice they had the threads all marred up. Whatever, tubes are cheap and aluminum is soft.

My first trip out shooting with it proved to be less than impressive. I hadn't shot in quite a while but even with a facog 4x from no more than 20 yards away it was shooting all over the place. I guessed it didn't like dynapoints and decided I'd try different ammo later.

Second trip out I have a couple of friends and I happend to have brought a cooey 60 so more than one of us could plink away at a given time. Two shots in and the extractor blew itself somewhere along with the spring. It's now a single shot until I effectively order another extractor.

I took it apart this evening and studied the less than flattering worksmanship gone into this rifle. Unlike the ruger and most semi auto 22's I noticed if you hold the trigger down the hammer will follow the bolt. Maybe it had to do with the trigger group being separate from the bolt but I irked an eyebrow when I was playing with the trigger group. I'm not worried about an out of battery fire or slam fire but what kind of piss poor design allows the hammer not to catch once the trigger is depressed and the hammer hits the back of the firing pin?

I also noticed my remington oem 30 round mag wont engage the mag catch which isn't a big deal but kind of defeats the purpose.

Not a huge fan of the plastic internal workings. Cheap and dirty. Overall I'm not impressed and should have stuck to my roots. The 10/22 is simple, effective proven and true. The 597 feels like mass produced, inaccurate garbage. Maybe I just bought a lemon.
 
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The impulse to buy and desire to get something different than the other dozen 10/22's I've had in the last half decade prompted me to buy an overpriced vtr.

Went to a gun store in Saint johns and my eyes fell upon it. I bought the model with the adjustable stock. Seemed a little heavy but whatever. Looked like a neat little toy (had no idea ruger had made its own ar15 mockery). So I bought it and first thing's first from the factory they somehow managed to crossthread the buffer tube into thje receiver. The stock was loose and when I went to tighten the tube nbut I unthreaded the tube and notice they had the threads all marred up. Whatever, tubes are cheap and aluminum is soft.

My first trip out shooting with it proved to be less than impressive. I hadn't shot in quite a while but even with a facog 4x from no more than 20 yards away it was shooting all over the place. I guessed it didn't like dynapoints and decided I'd try different ammo later.

Second trip out I have a couple of friends and I happend to have brought a cooey 60 so more than one of us could plink away at a given time. Two shots in and the extractor blew itself somewhere along with the spring. It's now a single shot until I effectively order another extractor.

I took it apart this evening and studied the less than flattering worksmanship gone into this rifle. Unlike the ruger and most semi auto 22's I noticed if you hold the trigger down the hammer will follow the bolt. Maybe it had to do with the trigger group being separate from the bolt but I irked an eyebrow when I was playing with the trigger group. I'm not worried about an out of battery fire or slam fire but what kind of piss poor design allows the hammer not to catch once the trigger is depressed and the hammer hits the back of the firing pin?

I also noticed my remington oem 30 round mag wont engage the mag catch which isn't a big deal but kind of defeats the purpose.

Not a huge fan of the plastic internal workings. Cheap and dirty. Overall I'm not impressed and should have stuck to my roots. The 10/22 is simple, effective proven and true. The 597 feels like mass produced, inaccurate garbage. Maybe I just bought a lemon.
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I have a 597 yellow jacket, four years old I think. It's shoots great, groups of 1/2" with standard velocity ammo are routine at 25 m. With the 10 round mags, works 100%. The 30 rounders are another story, some don't engage the mag catch as you describe. I have been very happy with the rifle overall. However, from what I gather, Remington quality has gone to the dogs the last few years. A pity, 10 years ago they made the best factory (non custom) barrels. I guess you got a lemon.
 
I feel your pain. I bought a .22 pump and when I got it home the thing was just a basket case. Very unimpressed and overpaid WAY to much. I just got it to working order and sold it. Just take it as a lesson learned and try to redeem as much of your money back as possible. All you can do is put it behind you.
 
I shouldnt put all 597's in the same boat. Out of box I remember everyone vowing for the 597 accuracy wise in respect to the 10/22. Meanwhile the age old cooey shoots the tightest groups known to man and works flawlessly. Just doesn't look quite as cool.
 
Sorry to hear you got a turd.My son bought one and has no issues with the gun or the remington plastic 30 round mag.Super reliable and a blast to shoot,very accurate too.Do yourself a favour and order a Volquartsen extractor.
 
i find its the most rediculous rifle to take apart and clean! You need every size allen key known to man just to open her up! The plastic 30 round mags that I have are garbage. Ive had so many FTF and FTE's then I can count! I find you cant put more then 20 rounds in them or it turns into a bolt action! Anything under 20 and she shoots like a dream. Accuracy wise I find it fairly good as Ive only shot it up to around 60-70 yards and my 10 x 14 gong is hard to miss at that distance! Fun little gun to take camping... thats about it in my opinion! As for remington in my books, the 2 firearms I own from them (597 and 870 Tac), 597 problems listed above and the 870 came with no extractor and the sights fell out first time out! So far 0-2! But I still have faith
 
I have heard two extremes with the 597 people either really like them or... you get the point. Me personally, have just stuck to 10/22's because they are proven to work. I just do not like taking a chance on something that can be 50/50. To each there own and that sucks you had a poor experience.
 
I have never owned a Remington product and never intend to. Even their ammo is junk.
 
Age old wisdom says is you want a rifle to shoot buy a bolt. The cz452's, the dozens of C.I.L, remingtons, winchesters, mossberg, cooey, lakefield will outshoot the most modern semi .22's. You buy them because they're semi auto and it's fun to tune them.

A 10/22 out of the box isn't the most flattering rifle but with some tuning it can be a very, very nice shooter.

I'm not mad at the money I spent on it. It didn't break my piggy bank. I just know for $700 My krinker plinker was cheaper, cooler and reliable. You're buying a factory ar forgery and that's what you're paying for. Did anyone check out the sleeve that separates the barrel from the forearm :rolleyes:

Newer 870's are still the same cheap quality but they're shotguns. They changed their metal trigger groups to plastic and the fitting is sloppy. They're just as cheaply made but one, they're shotguns and as long as they shoot and feed they work and second what do you really expect this day in age for those prices?

All I read was that the VTR was overpriced, and you have a bunch of 10/22s, so I stopped reading so I could laugh my ass off
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I'm lost.
 
Remington produces a lot of shyte. i like the brass and thats about it. It honestly makes me shed a slight tear inside to know that those bozo's are putting together marlins now. For cripes sake the chinese are building better rifles for a fraction of the cost... and for this reason i buy 20+ year old guns almost exclusively.
 
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