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This time for a #1 mkVI. I purchased this rifle as a sporter, dressed it up in nice #4 wood because good luck finding original wood. Used a forearm set up for a mag cut-off. Cocking piece and rear sight are not original. Numbers on receiver, bolt, and barrel match. Rifling is ok but a bit dark and a little rough.

I'll cross- post to the enfield site.
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I realize that likely no-one has seen one of these sell - especially recently. What I hope to get is a reasonable - yet slightly exorbient starting idea for price. So - if you had this enfield, what would you ask for it?
 
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As is, I would say between $300 & $375. It's not in that good of shape & while uncommon, it's missing the original cocking peice, wood and front sight protector.

Looks like it was covered in suncort as well during a convert to no4mk1 specs.

Pete
 
Pblatzz said:
As is, I would say between $300 & $375. It's not in that good of shape & while uncommon, it's missing the original cocking peice, wood and front sight protector.

Looks like it was covered in suncort as well during a convert to no4mk1 specs.

Pete
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Would it be worthwhile to remove the coating?


KARL: is the trigger mounted on the trigger guard?
 
The trigger is mounted on the trigger guard.

Thanks for the input. There seems to be a fair bit of interest in these rifles - mainly in the US and across the pond.
 
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I'm going to take a stab at my own question. The value should reflect:

A) Relative scarcity of item
B) Condition
C) Value to Seller
D) Value to buyer

A Seems that #1 mkVI are uncommon. One guy who emailed me thinks there may be as few as 10 in the US. (How would anyone know?) A fellow from the enfield collectors board compared value to the L42A1 due to to similar production numbers - I think thats way too high because sniper rifles are way more interesting.

B This rifle is not pristine. I doubt if any are. They saw hard use before, during , and after the war. Many were stripped and made to #4 spec. I doubt the correct wood will fall from the sky but it is possible that the correct cocking piece, sight, or sight protector might show up over time. Skirsons suggested making the wood look right but I shy away from that.

C I collect Enfields - have several snipers, several LB, EAL, 4 or 5 #4 mk2, a bunch of #4 mk1. I really like these rifles. I dont need the cash. For a pittance of 3 or 4 hundred dollars, I would far rather keep it in my gunsafe.

D Thing are not worth what you ask - its worth what you get. Buyers ultimately decide what something is worth. Auctions are a perfect indicator. Would be nice see what this or one similar would go for in a well advertized auction.


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I think your doing the right thing here.

I don't think your going to find too many over here that have survived in decent shape.

You have done a good job so far with the wood and keep looking you will find wood with the low cutout for the cutoff.

People telling you $350 are on crack :) I suspect that you could get at least $700 for it here on the EE

As you have decided to become an enfield collector and have some of the harder to find ones allready I can only give you my opinion, I would keep that rifle as an example of the Pre No4 trail rifle that it is. Other parts that you need will show up in time, just keep looking.

Or you could send it to me and I'll store it for you with my other enfields till you come to your senses. :)
 
woodchopper said:
I think your doing the right thing here.

I don't think your going to find too many over here that have survived in decent shape.

You have done a good job so far with the wood and keep looking you will find wood with the low cutout for the cutoff.

People telling you $350 are on crack :) I suspect that you could get at least $700 for it here on the EE

As you have decided to become an enfield collector and have some of the harder to find ones allready I can only give you my opinion, I would keep that rifle as an example of the Pre No4 trail rifle that it is. Other parts that you need will show up in time, just keep looking.

Or you could send it to me and I'll store it for you with my other enfields till you come to your senses. :)
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Well said Woodchopper. I agree. BTW, I think that is a low cut forend he put on it.
Not many of those around...I really wonder where you could find the right parts for it though, very uncommon stuff.
 
certainly looks like a low cut fore end to me too.

Parts are going to be hard to find, perhaps watch for other sporterized rifles that have some older parts.

but since it did get upgraded to No4Mk1 specs, any parts are correct. Just nicer to have the original parts.

a waisted front site would be no1 on my list of parts.

It will never be as factory original spec but it can be as issued.
 
woodchopper said:
certainly looks like a low cut fore end to me too.

Parts are going to be hard to find, perhaps watch for other sporterized rifles that have some older parts.

but since it did get upgraded to No4Mk1 specs, any parts are correct. Just nicer to have the original parts.

a waisted front site would be no1 on my list of parts.

It will never be as factory original spec but it can be as issued.
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After he mentioned this rifle I read the writeup on it in Skennerton's Lee Enfield book. Quite interesting. The forend checkering would be pretty hard to replicate! It was apparently to improve the grip for bayonet fighting I think it was...
 
Wow, forgive my ignorance, but what's the story behind these? I've only ever seen a small picture in one of the books in our library, but there was no write ups on it.
 
woodchopper said:
I think your doing the right thing here.

I don't think your going to find too many over here that have survived in decent shape.

You have done a good job so far with the wood and keep looking you will find wood with the low cutout for the cutoff.

People telling you $350 are on crack :) I suspect that you could get at least $700 for it here on the EE

As you have decided to become an enfield collector and have some of the harder to find ones allready I can only give you my opinion, I would keep that rifle as an example of the Pre No4 trail rifle that it is. Other parts that you need will show up in time, just keep looking.

Or you could send it to me and I'll store it for you with my other enfields till you come to your senses. :)
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Thanks - you are by far wiser than I :) Will probably just keep it

Wally - The new Lee Enfield book by Skennerton gives a pretty good explanation. They were made before the #4 Trials rifles.... approx 1025 made.
 
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Okay, where is Claven2?

Put down that Sten your play'n with and give us your two cents...

I have nothing to offer. I was going to make a smart arse comment about it is a IV not a VI as I thought this was a NEWB thing. But then I saw the VI mark...must go back and READ Skennerton book I bought..:redface:
 
The only place I can think of where you might get new production parts for this rifle would be efdrifles.(Add the first three and the last three and you have their web site) They might have to make them for you, and wouldn't be cheap, but they would be accurate parts.
 
ian_in_vic said:
The only place I can think of where you might get new production parts for this rifle would be efdrifles.(Add the first three and the last three and you have their web site) They might have to make them for you, and wouldn't be cheap, but they would be accurate parts.
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Or Scott Stonehill in the US.
 
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