Price Check: L.E. No1 Mk3*

RichM

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Hey

just recently came across a No1 mk3* full wood w/ non matching blade bayo and cleaning kit

the markings are as follows:

Sht. L.E.
BSAC
1917
III*

Details: minty bore, small chip on the forestock, non matching bayo, cleaning kit, and sling

What kind of price will I expect to pay for this rifle?


Thanks in advance
 
The Bolt (on handle as you hold rifle forward), Receiver, Barrel (take hand guard off carefully), Fore stock (underside below nose cap) and nose cap (on bayo lug) should all have the same serial number on them.

Does the wood look the same colour? Sanded, or rounded edges?

Birmingham Small Arms 1917, Is there a C with an arrow on the receiver on the top or left hand side? Had to ask.

The bayonet, does it have a scabbard? If yes about $100, for the bayonet alone $75 (with out scabbard).

as for the rifle, $350 to $500 depending on how it looks, WWI or WWII refurb, Canadian or Brit issue, etc.

Post some picts if you want a closer assessment.

Pete
 
Depends on the condition and whether or not the headspace is ok. The bayonet has its own value, also depending on condition.
 
The Bolt (on handle as you hold rifle forward), Receiver, Barrel (take hand guard off carefully), Fore stock (underside below nose cap) and nose cap (on bayo lug) should all have the same serial number on them.

Does the wood look the same colour? Sanded, or rounded edges?

Birmingham Small Arms 1917, Is there a C with an arrow on the receiver on the top or left hand side? Had to ask.

The bayonet, does it have a scabbard? If yes about $100, for the bayonet alone $75 (with out scabbard).

as for the rifle, $350 to $500 depending on how it looks, WWI or WWII refurb, Canadian or Brit issue, etc.

Post some picts if you want a closer assessment.

Pete

the serial nos on the receiver and nose cap match, didn't take off any parts. I don't recall seeing one on the bolt handle, but i will look at it tomorrow to see if there is one. I remember seeing a broad C arrow on the bolt though.

The wood is all the same colour it appears to be original. There is a small ding in it near the front end though.

Can you provide me with instructions on how to take off the stock, hopefully the owner will let me do so.

And how can you tell if its WW1 or WW2 refurb or who it was issued to (canadian or brit)?
 
the serial nos on the receiver and nose cap match, didn't take off any parts. I don't recall seeing one on the bolt handle, but i will look at it tomorrow to see if there is one. I remember seeing a broad C arrow on the bolt though.

The wood is all the same colour it appears to be original. There is a small ding in it near the front end though.

Can you provide me with instructions on how to take off the stock, hopefully the owner will let me do so.

And how can you tell if its WW1 or WW2 refurb or who it was issued to (canadian or brit)?

The Canadian issued ones will have the C brad arrow, the British ones will have just an arrow stamped on it.

As for take down:
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Thanks in advance

If all correct and all matching, it could be a nice find ....... :)

Here's a similar old girl in the Knowledge Library and it should look like this ...

1917 ShtLE (Short Lee-Enfield) No.1 MkIII*
(Mfg by BSA - Birmingham Small Arms)

Does the rifle have a dent in the wood?

In the 1917 example above, note the large dent shown in the side of the forestock in a few of the pics of the photo virtual tour. At first glance it appears to be wood damage from some kind of impact, when in reality, it actually indicates that the stock of this rifle was from old supplies that had already been cut-out, in preparation for installing the front volley sight. By the time this rifle had been manufactured in 1917, the use of front and rear volley sights on No.1 rifles had been discontinued, as of January 1916.


(Click PIC to Enlarge)

Regards,
Doug
 
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