Price check on 1894 30 wcf Winchester

[talon]

Hey...

Have a chance to pick up an old 1894 Winchester in 30 WCF. I have looked it over and suprisingly it's in pretty good shape. There is a chip/scratch in the forestock, patina finish ( some bluing worn off on the mag tube). Only real issues are that there are two screws missing from the reciever top left side, and I'm not sure if the sights are original.. Some of the Winchesters did have the screws, but I dont know about this age of rifle if they did... not sure if it's was a Williams sight drill and tap, but the old fellow apparently died about 40 years ago so i'm not sure. Other than that it's an oldie and is quite solid.

How about a price check.

If you could comment or drop me a line.

Cheers,
KEn

 

[BUSHMAN79]

Well, we need the serial # for starters, and we have to know if it's a rifle or carbine. Pics help, too!

 

[BUSHMAN79]

Also, the two screw holes are to mount a Lyman or Williams receiver sight. Depending on the vintage, they might be original.

 

[talon]

Rifle, it's quite long, forgive my ignorance! the serial number 's first three are 360 (1905-06???). My camera is busted, but if you send me an email address, I can sneak one home from work!
Thanks thus far!

 

[BUSHMAN79]

Okay, so we know the screw holes aren't original, anyway! I will PM you my e-mail.

 

[Winnipeg Toymaker]

six numbers or seven? from what I see with the first being 360### ... either a 1906 or 1907. i have 313 ### 30WCF octagon barrel and 327### 30 WCF round barrel rifles and both certified 1906 manufacture. Had rifle 367### 38-55 (1907) but someone liked it better than I did.


the two holes are not original. way too early for them to be factory. Thus the gun is altered and value halved.

 

[BUSHMAN79]

six numbers or seven? from what I see with the first being 360### ... either a 1906 or 1907. i have 313 ### and 327### rifles and both certified 1906 manufacture. Had rifle 367### ( 1907) but someone liked it better than I did.


the two holes are not original. way too early for them to be factory. Thus the gun is altered and value halved.

It could only be six digits, since it's a rifle. No rifles around with three million range serial numbers!

 

[talon]

It only has six....damn on the holes!!!! Bushman, i'll send you pics by tommorow night... estimated ballpark value guys? It is quite handsome and sturdy!!! lol

 

[BUSHMAN79]

I'd say $400 or so, due to the holes.

 

[Winnipeg Toymaker]

My estimate would be $350-$400.. Original would be twice that. Unless it is a special order rifle but peeps with that screw mounting pattern were not til around the 30s according to my winchester book.Though Madis has been wrong once or twice apparently. Williams sights were started in 1926.

 

[talon]

Thanks guys, You can see there was a sight on it, as there is a small bit of the blueing worn where it was.... the holes look proper, but like you said they did not come around till the 30's or so...grrrrr... for over a hundred years old, it's really really nice!

 

[Winnipeg Toymaker]

The guns in those days were tools and had a purpose,so many were "hurt" and repaired as needed and altered so they would keep working. To the avid collectors, altered guns are low in value, but to the shooter, they can hold much nostalgia and history. i would say, keep it , shoot it, and enjoy it. Then if applicable, hang it in reverence on a wall and take time to admire its presence.

I have an Enfield .410 shotty that holds my dearest early memories. It had been "bubbad" and lovingly refurbished for me by a great fellow CGNer and my many thanks are to him.