Price vs quality

caramel said:
I do not talk of proportional vs price, i stated they cost more, they are and shoot BETTER.

If a 6K revolver group one inch at 25 yards and a 600.00 revolver group 2 inch at 25 yards, in reality you pay for one inch less at 25 yards, not proportional but huge improvement in accuracy.

Substracting that extra inch at 25 yards is you price difference. And if i may add, it worth all the extra dollars you pay. But this is just me, i could be wrong but i doubt it.:)
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That might be your personal experience (e.g., between your Korth v Ruger) but far from a universal reality. There are 1-2K guns that will shoot as accurately or out shoot 6K guns. They won't be as nicely finished, that that doesn't change the fact.
 
If there were no difference it would not be worth the value to buy something expensive we do because it increase our performance
 
One does not need a super pricey gun to enjoy shooting. Even the most expensive LR precision rifles still need the right ammo and technique to get the proper accuracy.

If the EE is any indication, most high price guns are not moving in our current political and economic climate.

Most people who buy high end guns turn them into safe queens. Guns with super tight tolerances basically give inherent accuracy over reliability. I’ve seen this with LB and WC 1911s. Norincos just keep going.

Buy the best you can afford and don’t worry about what other people think.
 
I will take the analogy of race car if you buy a Porsche Carrera or a Porsche turbo over a Nissan Infiniti you will gain a second on the quarter-mile but you will pay triple the price. That second is what is the difference. With firearms the same thing happen that quarter inch improvement is what is the difference between 1000 or $6,000
 
caramel said:
I will take the analogy of race car if you buy a Porsche Carrera or a Porsche turbo over a Nissan Infiniti you will gain a second on the quarter-mile but you will pay triple the price. That second is what is the difference. With firearms the same thing happen that quarter inch improvement is what is the difference between 1000 or $6,000
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A more expensive gun isn't always better technically. Sometimes much of the price difference is finish and cosmetics....exotic hardwood grips, hand engraving, deep glossy bluing etc. Also sometimes part of the extra cost is marketing and reputation.......brand cache.

I've always figured about 10% of the cost of a Mercedes is for the three pointed star.;)
 
caramel said:
If there were no difference it would not be worth the value to buy something expensive we do because it increase our performance
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I have bought some expensive guns because they were unique, collectable, engineering marvels. Had nothing to do with performance.

caramel said:
I will take the analogy of race car if you buy a Porsche Carrera or a Porsche turbo over a Nissan Infiniti you will gain a second on the quarter-mile but you will pay triple the price. That second is what is the difference. With firearms the same thing happen that quarter inch improvement is what is the difference between 1000 or $6,000
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Depends what you are talking about. Pure bench accuracy, or ability to shoot up a course. Either case - I bet you will not see a difference between the performance centre Smith v Korth v MR73 or a STI v SVI yet some of those options are twice the price.
 
Anyway i'm not trying to convince anyone i noticed the difference myself i'm pretty satisfied with m'y investmentl
 
And that another point.

a shooter vs investment. As we grow older, and can afford it, we lean more towards investment.
 
caramel said:
I will take the analogy of race car if you buy a Porsche Carrera or a Porsche turbo over a Nissan Infiniti you will gain a second on the quarter-mile but you will pay triple the price. That second is what is the difference. With firearms the same thing happen that quarter inch improvement is what is the difference between 1000 or $6,000
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If you're buying a Porsche for the quarter mile performance (I doubt that you have, but I don't doubt that you own a Porsche) you have more money than brains. But if you really did buy a Porsche for the quarter I'd take your opinion about performance and spending money with a grain of salt!
 
caramel said:
If there were no difference it would not be worth the value to buy something expensive we do because it increase our performance
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Many people buy more expensive things because it increases other people's awareness of how much money the buyer has.
 
TheTooner said:
Many people buy more expensive things because it increases other people's awareness of how much money the buyer has.
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You may see it this way, it's your prerogative, when i buy an expensive item it solely to please my family or i.

Would it please or diplease the others is not a big concern of mine.
 
After selling a pile of handguns over the years, most new guys will look at price first, which is not a bad thing I think.
they shot for a couple years and start to up grade, usally keep the old one for backup, wife.
some never really get into it, so their one low priced handgun don't cost much to feed.
Most new shooters could not shoot a 1200.oo better than a fair 400-500.oo 1911 or what ever.
I sold a boat load of those D.A. NP27 commanders , a lot of the people may not have bought a 45 if they had to pay 1000.oo+ to get started.
I can't talk about 3000.oo 1911's, I don't think would be much difference to a 1800-2000.oo one 1/4"?
I have a 600.oo 9mm that out shoots a 2500.oo 9mm
P.S. After a fellow or lady shoots a average gun , let them shoot a tuned 1911 and see the grins, then they start to think about better stuff.
 
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Last June, I got a Springfield Armory Stainless Loaded ca 2005 (with Bomar type rear sight) for $760 shipped insured, two magazines off the EE. The seller kindly broke it in nicely with 2000 rds.

Barrel lock up is bank vault tight, slide to frame and barrel to bushing fits have zero play yet glass smooth. Trigger is a perfect crisp 4-5 lbs guesstimate.
Groups 3 inches at 15 meters standing offhand. And I’m your average lousy shot.

I think I stole an exceptionally built 1911, which is my current never sell pistol.

It’s better to be lucky than smart, IMO.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
I bought a $5000 handgun once.
I shot it for a while. But it was really nothing special.

I sold it to a friend, and got most of my money back.

I used that money to buy 5 different guns for $1000 each.
Much better value in my opinion.
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Kinda like getting 10 sloppy skanks to blow you or a one super hawt beautiful tight call girl to curl your toes. You decide:p
 
As in all things in sport, there is only so much improvement that can be achieved through better equipment. I refer to this as the 4 Ts rule. There are 4 factors that influence performance in sport: your talent, training, technique and tools.

Of the four Ts, tools (i.e. better equipment) is the one with the most immediate effect, but the least overall effect. OTOH, poor equipment may be a limiting factor. Talent, you are either born with or without. Proper technique requires good instruction, consistency and practice (i.e. training). Training (i.e not only a lot of shooting, but shooting with purpose to achieve proper technique) is the key to success.
 
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