prices, come on people!!

[bill c68]

I missed out last year on a Valmet hunter for $1000! I see someone bought it as it is on the EE for almost 4 times that amount! (of course the reason I missed out was the guy put his price up when he found out what it was worth)

I noticed a few years ago there were more deals to be had at the shows but I honestly think CGN has directly affected gun show prices as some guys were selling items way below market value.

 

[grunt031]

Are all the gun shows around ontario like this?

 

[TheTooner]

There was a 340 savage in 225win that caught my eye, a buddy of mine asked how much, $450 with the scope, the scope wasn't worth anything, so he came down $20 and that was as far as he would go, what I'm saying is that rifle is worth about $300 at the most

What the seller is saying is that rifle is worth at least $429 to him. A thing is worth whatever someone is willing to give up in order to get or keep it. He was willing to give up a larger amount of money than you or your buddy were, so he proved his rifle is worth that much.

 

[senior]

What the seller is saying is that rifle is worth at least $429 to him. A thing is worth whatever someone is willing to give up in order to get or keep it. He was willing to give up a larger amount of money than you or your buddy were, so he proved his rifle is worth that much.

Isn't value based on what it would sell for?? In which case it actually it isn't worth anything if it doesn't sell!

 

[albayo]

Gun Shows & Prices

I was one of the sellers at the Irishtown Gun show and it was slow as far as selling guns. The shows aren't the place to sell guns these days since everyone has been looking at the net. It's been over three years since I have sold any amount of guns at a show. I only took a few items this time, and sold a single shot 12 gage and a 22. There are fewer young buyers out there, just look around at the gray hair. The majority of sellers at the shows are retired some have health issues.


A friend and I ran the Riverview Gun Show, we gave it up in 1999 after 17 years, and we turned it over to the present organizers. We don't have any connection to the Irishtown show I buy my tables like everyone else.

The Kinsman Center in Riverview had enough room for 275, 8' tables and had lots of room for the sellers and the public. The town of Riverview bought the building after the Kinsmen ran into financial problems a few years ago, I think it's an indoor skate park for the kids.

The biggest problem with the Maritime gun shows is the lack of space and are two day shows.
I have talked to lots of sellers that go to shows and they agree that one-day shows are the way to go and maybe more of them. I have health problems and am only able to handle one day at a gun show, standing on a concrete floor creates a great amount of pain. It will take me weeks to get over two days at Irishtown. If the seller has to stay Saturday night in a town to attend a show on Sunday, it's not worth it.
The amount of items sold on Sunday in most cases wouldn't cover the extra cost of the motel and meals. The prices of the items for sale sometimes reflect the extra expense of tables, gas, and lodging. They can't meet the prices that you can get on sites like Gunnutz the only expense is shipping.

The big advantage of going to a show is you can see what you are buying and talk to the owner face to face. Unless there is a seller that just wants to get rid of his items, then you get deals.

Are the gun shows in other parts of Canada two-day shows?

 

[RR]

There was a 340 savage in 225win that caught my eye, a buddy of mine asked how much, $450 with the scope, the scope wasn't worth anything, so he came down $20 and that was as far as he would go, what I'm saying is that rifle is worth about $300 at the most

A 340V is the rarest model made.$400 dollars rare Who knows? In 40 + years of going to gunshows I have seen 3.

Rich

 

[Killer Kanuck]

The 2 I left with were priced more than fairly. And this was on Sunday morning, when the best deals are almost always gone. Sometimes just depends what you're looking for.

 

[6.5x55swm]

he wasn't looking for a collector rifle just a coyote rifle, and reading what albayo wrote, he is right the gun shows in riverview were way better than irishtown. I guess I didn't take in account that some vendors have some pretty large expenses, gas, food, hotel and if there like me, beer!!

 

[J Stuart]

Don't ##### too much......the Brno ZG47's that you can access for $700.00-$800.00 from Tradex go for over $2000.00 here....IF you can find one.
Plan to part with a healthy $3000.00+ for a good Model 21 or even more for a good Model 22.

See....you do not have it so bad after all !

 

[ontgunner]

I went to my first gun show in years a few weeks back... I was there less than 40 minutes and spent a total of $7.50... entrance fee, a hot dog and a bottle of water.
Rifle prices were near or, in some cases, over that of a new gun.
A lot of the stuff I was looking at (reloading stuff) wasn't even priced (some not even marked as to what was inside the die boxes). If you wanted info, you had to keep bugging the guy behind the table.
I guess I won't be going to another one for a while.
Between the CGN E.E. forum and our internet sales companies, there's really no need to.
$.02

 

[bill c68]

I think alot of the guys at the shows have no access to the net and buy all of their guns from the classifieds or a local gun shop that has to charge about 25% more than the going rate. Most of them likely don't know better or they do and are hoping the clientel doesn't. Either way as CGN and the net grows, the prices will drop at these shows eventually.

 

[H4831]

Gun Sale?

Thats why they call it a "Gun Show" and not a "Gun Sale".

Was talking to a security person at the Kamloops Gun Show. As the first day, Saturday, was ending, the security person said they had been on security there every year for fifteen years. She said there were more guns sold, going out the door, than in any previous year. She also remarked how many of them were expensive guns.
A person I know who had a table said he sold twelve, old Winchester large calibre lever action rifles.

 

[NAA]

I went to my first gun show in years a few weeks back... I was there less than 40 minutes and spent a total of $7.50... entrance fee, a hot dog and a bottle of water.
Rifle prices were near or, in some cases, over that of a new gun.
A lot of the stuff I was looking at (reloading stuff) wasn't even priced (some not even marked as to what was inside the die boxes). If you wanted info, you had to keep bugging the guy behind the table.
I guess I won't be going to another one for a while.
Between the CGN E.E. forum and our internet sales companies, there's really no need to.
$.02

In my experience, these types of gun show sellers just get a table to be there to get in on the deals before the doors open to the public. They bring a bit of stuff to throw on the table but usually are disinterested in selling. Pricing is usually high and they have the attitude that if it doesn't sell for asking then so be it. It's a bit of a game but they [as in one or more of them] are usually at every show.

 

[manbearpig]

Some people will not pay the price....BUT many will. Pieces of history do not come cheap....much like people collect cars...other collect guns....just look at the prices the cars attract on Barrett Auctions and antiques are worth on the roadshow. it is the age.... not the product that keeps the prices high. I personally would rather take a 100 year old gun to the range and shoot it than to buy a new gun, that everyone else has.. just my $0.02 worth.

sure, but some of those antique pieces of furniture, paintings, etc only have one item, or perhaps a few dozen in existence.

guns? in many cases there were millions, or tens of millions made. sure the rare ones should be pricey, but for the most part there is a lot of price gouging going on in the used gun and milsurp market.

 

[tree mugger]

Then don't buy.......

I've gotten good deals by keeping my head to the ground, and paid more than "market value" for something that I wanted.......

If I'm selling something, I'll get what I ask, or I won't.......No amount of whining here is going to change that....

 

[H4831]

There was a 340 savage in 225win that caught my eye, a buddy of mine asked how much, $450 with the scope, the scope wasn't worth anything, so he came down $20 and that was as far as he would go, what I'm saying is that rifle is worth about $300 at the most

To you the rifle was worth $300, at most. But I am thinking, how many 340 Savage's have I seen? Then I think a little deeper. The 225 Winchester was a calibre that just didn't set the world on fire. Then think of a 340 Savage in 225 Winchester! The bells are ringing, RARE.
You never mentioned what condition it appeared to be in, but if in collector condition it could have been a valuable piece. I will guess it was never shot too much, and it wouldn't have been dragged through the bush on moose, or likely even deer, hunts, so could have been in great condition.
As has been said, the buyer sets the price, or at least will snap up a deal when he sees one. One reason why a seller, not sure of what his gun may bring, will put a higher tag on it, just in case it is valuable to some one.
I was at a gun show in Yuma, Arizona, when a fellow walked in with a Model 94 W in 25-35 calibre. He went to about the first table he came to, told the dealer that rifle had shot a deer every year, never missed, etc, etc. When he quit talking the dealer took the rifle, turned it over once in his hands, then asked the fellow what he wanted for it. The fellow said, five hundred dollars. He had five hundred dollars in his hand so fast it would make your head swim.
The man went, the dealer took out a silicon cloth, wiped down the rifle and said to me, "This one is going in my car". I asked him what was so special about it. He said first the calibre, second the condition, then he showed me two minor (in my fiew) variations the rifle had and said, "This is rare."
Result, happy seller getting more than he expected and very happy buyer.

 

[reid134]

sometimes youcan find great deal, sometimes you wont, but thats why you goto the shows.

 

[Wooly ESS]

As I see it, gun shows have two roles. The first is as a flea market. Junk is piled up on the tables, and it is priced all over the place - usually on the high side. If you are looking for a bargain, your work is cut out for you. You have to scrutinize piles of junk to find the gem, and then you need to apply all your negotiating skills to get the gem for a good price. Many people love flea markets. I'm not one of them.

The other role of gunshows is to get the obscure, rare or unusual out, all under one roof for folks to look at. Included in this category is the high to very high end stuff. Prices can be very high on this group, and you really have to know your business if you want to play in this game. This is the aspect of gun shows that I love. You need knowledge, and you have to know the price bracket of the things you might be interested in. If you can't make a cash deal, then you may be able to swing a trade. If you've been playing this game for awhile, you usually have something to trade that might twig a sellers fancy. Guns in this category are generally not available over-the counter, so there is no bench mark to compare to.

I came home from the Calgary Gun Show with a pretty little Bernadelli Roma 3 SxS in 20 gauge. I traded straight across for it, and the only money I spent at the show was my admission fee, and my parking. There is no way I would have found that little jewel without a Gun Show to bring it light.

This is just my opinion. I love Gun Shows and would miss them if they were gone.

 

[icehunter121]

To you the rifle was worth $300, at most. But I am thinking, how many 340 Savage's have I seen? Then I think a little deeper. The 225 Winchester was a calibre that just didn't set the world on fire. Then think of a 340 Savage in 225 Winchester! The bells are ringing, RARE.
You never mentioned what condition it appeared to be in, but if in collector condition it could have been a valuable piece. I will guess it was never shot too much, and it wouldn't have been dragged through the bush on moose, or likely even deer, hunts, so could have been in great condition.
As has been said, the buyer sets the price, or at least will snap up a deal when he sees one. One reason why a seller, not sure of what his gun may bring, will put a higher tag on it, just in case it is valuable to some one.
I was at a gun show in Yuma, Arizona, when a fellow walked in with a Model 94 W in 25-35 calibre. He went to about the first table he came to, told the dealer that rifle had shot a deer every year, never missed, etc, etc. When he quit talking the dealer took the rifle, turned it over once in his hands, then asked the fellow what he wanted for it. The fellow said, five hundred dollars. He had five hundred dollars in his hand so fast it would make your head swim.
The man went, the dealer took out a silicon cloth, wiped down the rifle and said to me, "This one is going in my car". I asked him what was so special about it. He said first the calibre, second the condition, then he showed me two minor (in my fiew) variations the rifle had and said, "This is rare."
Result, happy seller getting more than he expected and very happy buyer.

Did the same with a woman once...we met in the bar and I thought she was A rare model...looked her over but didnt get to fondle her or wipe her down with silicone...spent some time getting to know her and how her action was ,took a couple of months and she moved in with me.I even got her in my truck the second time we met.

Then after a few years I realized that this was no variation of a current model ,cost me 20 grand just to git rid of her.....I knew from that point on I should have just put out $ 400.00 bucks for a lever action 30-30....

 

[bearhunter]

It's all relative, If you're makeing minimum wage, no offense intended, everything's expensive, includeing the entry fee. Some dealers won't dicker, and their products are overpriced. Get over it already. They came to horse trade and some of them are new to the game and figure their 20 year old Savage is now an antique and has trebled in value since it was given to them on their twelfth birthday. Some don't realise what they have and sell extremely low. No they're not all taken before the show opens either, many of the vendors don't even get there until the public enters and also many won't deal with the other vendors before the show opens. Only because they would rather deal with the public. bearhunter