Pricing help on some hunting rifles

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So a friend who's dad passed has a bunch of firearms he needs sold. He's asked me if I could help so I'm looking for a little feedback on pricing. He sent me prices from his local gun shop but when I look at them I feel they are too high. Considering the shop is asking for 25% commission, I figure maybe I can help. There are 11 to sell in total so I figured I'd post a couple of his numbers and see if they are on par.

Right now the guns are being held by the OPP while we coordinate a pickup, so I don't have access to pics or feedback on condition. According to his paperwork they are all in good to very good condition. Lightly used hunting rifles. I know for truly accurate pricing, pics and condition would be mandatory, so let's assume best case scenario that they are all in excellent condition.

1) 2006 T3 light in 270WIN, synthetic black stock with 22" stainless steel barrel, 2-7x33 leupold rifleman scope ($1600)

2) 2007 Savage Weather Warrior 16FH .279WSM, synthetic black stock, stainless steel barrel, 3-9x40 simmons blazer scope ($1900)

3) 2007 Browning Hunter in .308WIN, walnut stock, blued barrel, 3-9x40 Swift Scope ($1950)

4) Tikka T3 Hunter in 30-06SPR, walnut stock with blued barrel, 2-7x33 leopold rifleman scope ($2000)

What do you guys think? Are these prices in the right ball park? I might have access to a photo of each that was taken before the OPP grabbed them but it would only be a single pic, and low resolution. With that said, I should have them picked up by Christmas so I should be able to post high def pics in December.

Thanks guys
 
DGY said:
To me, and that is just my opinion, looks like they are all about 300-400 bucks too high…
Maybe I’m wrong!
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Agreed. Those prices are all too high, especially the Savage. I'm not sure what a Leupold rifleman is worth, but the other two scopes aren't worth a lot. I'd expect the prices to be closer to $1200 each.
 
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Wayy out in left field for prices IMHO ! Check out some used prices @ thegundealer.net...should help re-evaluate some of your ideas for what you're asking prices should be closer to.
 
I watch tikka prices on the regular cause why not. Every once in a while a T3X blued from the store can be had for 1k (1099 at cabelas regular price) so for an older T3 even good condition you’re likely $900 or less. This is for the 270. I doubt that scope is worth $700. An not having or knowing the rifles actual history makes them a tiny bit of a gamble. I see them for sale in the T3X for as low as $950 OBO.

The Walnut hunter could maybe do $1200 based on new prices being around 1399. And again the scopes not worth $800.

I see a rifleman for 275 with rings listed.

Hopefully that helps but I definitely agree with the others. Also most people would prefer to buy rifles without scopes as usually it’s never the combo they want so they end up selling them. I’ve found it easier to get more money when selling separately.

Cheers,
B
 
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On the rare occasion consignment prices are rich.
Two fold.
The unsuspecting owner of ssid ker-pows sees $$ not realizing that the over pricing makes the stores used inventory look more approachable.
Under handed but done.

Good luck on your endeavour.
 
Half that is new rifle prices, all those scopes are budget, be better off selling them separately or not even valuing them.
Look up those guns new and take 25% off if you want them to sell.
 
Those scopes add very little to the value of the gun.

Your asking prices should be 55 - 60% of what you've posted and should accept that and be thankful you got it.

I'm wondering how you arrived at the prices you are considering asking.

As previously mentioned some stores will have hilariously high priced consignment guns so the lower priced used guns in their inventory are more attractive.

Another problem you have is that the OPP have the guns.
They've I'll be more than likely damaged when you get them returned, they aren't handled the way most gun owners handle their guns, they WILL without doubt be scratched and dented and worth less than before the OPP got them.

They should never have been given the opportunity to take them.
That was poor estate planning, very poor.
 
I agree with what the other guys are saying, those prices are way too high. Not sure what shop your buddy used to determine those values, but I assume he included taxes as well, as though you bought the rifles, scopes & rings new?

The other thing I will comment on is, bummer the OPP have possession & not the executor of the Will... The concern I would have is that the firearms are returned after some period of poor storage & careless handling which will reduce their values...
 
Jay said:
The other thing I will comment on is, bummer the OPP have possession & not the executor of the Will... The concern I would have is that the firearms are returned after some period of poor storage & careless handling which will reduce their values...
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That is the biggest detractor for me. The OP wants us to assume that ALL the rifles are in excellent condition, but the OPP has them, and we all know how difficult it becomes to try to get firearms back from ANY police force. Even if those prices were halved, I still don't think it makes the headache worthwhile that one would get trying to deal with the OPP to get them.

Just the fact the OPP has them, even if they were at 10% of new value, would make me wonder if it is worth the hassle.
 
Thanks guys, you are saying exactly what I was telling myself. However, I've been out of the selling market since COVID so I wanted a second opinion on it. I'll take the feedback to my friend and see what he says.
FatCatsDad said:
I'm wondering how you arrived at the prices you are considering asking.

As previously mentioned some stores will have hilariously high priced consignment guns so the lower priced used guns in their inventory are more attractive.

Another problem you have is that the OPP have the guns.
They've I'll be more than likely damaged when you get them returned, they aren't handled the way most gun owners handle their guns, they WILL without doubt be scratched and dented and worth less than before the OPP got them.

They should never have been given the opportunity to take them.
That was poor estate planning, very poor.
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If I remember correctly the value numbers he has are from estimates given to him in 2015 as part of an estate evaluation. I'm guessing for insurance purposes? But I could be wrong. I know he said they were values given to him in 2015, but I'm not positive on who gave them to him.

I said the same regarding the OPP, I've dealt with them before and I've always had them come back damaged. The last batch I did (about 6 years ago) there were a bunch of beautiful old Springfields and they were all just dumped in a bin together and wheeled out to me. It's was tragic.

I don't know if the death was expected or a surprise and I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding the OPP taking them. I think there is more to the story, as they don't take guns just because someone passed, but that is not my business. They just need someone with a PAL to pick them up.

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That is the biggest detractor for me. The OP wants us to assume that ALL the rifles are in excellent condition, but the OPP has them, and we all know how difficult it becomes to try to get firearms back from ANY police force. Even if those prices were halved, I still don't think it makes the headache worthwhile that one would get trying to deal with the OPP to get them.

Just the fact the OPP has them, even if they were at 10% of new value, would make me wonder if it is worth the hassle.
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My logic was that if I can get some ball park numbers based on excellent condition and best case scenario then I can go back to him with tangible reasons as to why he should lower those expectations of sale value. ie. damage, barrel wear, low value scope, unpopular caliber, etc...

Thanks guys, this is really what I needed. I really want to help him out but I need his expectations to be reasonable or he's just going to get frustrated that I'm not moving them in a reasonable amount of time. I don't think there is any urgency in the estate to liquidate them, but at the same time I don't think they want them just sitting on the market for months on end with no movement.
 
Half the prices at least, after they have been unintentionally, or not, defiled be the OPP.

No one takes care of others property like the other does.
 
sphen said:
Thanks guys, you are saying exactly what I was telling myself. However, I've been out of the selling market since COVID so I wanted a second opinion on it. I'll take the feedback to my friend and see what he says.


If I remember correctly the value numbers he has are from estimates given to him in 2015 as part of an estate evaluation. I'm guessing for insurance purposes? But I could be wrong. I know he said they were values given to him in 2015, but I'm not positive on who gave them to him.

I said the same regarding the OPP, I've dealt with them before and I've always had them come back damaged. The last batch I did (about 6 years ago) there were a bunch of beautiful old Springfields and they were all just dumped in a bin together and wheeled out to me. It's was tragic.

I don't know if the death was expected or a surprise and I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding the OPP taking them. I think there is more to the story, as they don't take guns just because someone passed, but that is not my business. They just need someone with a PAL to pick them up.



My logic was that if I can get some ball park numbers based on excellent condition and best case scenario then I can go back to him with tangible reasons as to why he should lower those expectations of sale value. ie. damage, barrel wear, low value scope, unpopular caliber, etc...

Thanks guys, this is really what I needed. I really want to help him out but I need his expectations to be reasonable or he's just going to get frustrated that I'm not moving them in a reasonable amount of time. I don't think there is any urgency in the estate to liquidate them, but at the same time I don't think they want them just sitting on the market for months on end with no movement.
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I'd peel off the scopes and sell all separate, parts are always worth more than the whole package, peel off the rings as well.
The extra money's with the extra time spent packaging and mailing
 
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Nothing like some tough luv eh ?
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I agree. Halved would put you in the right realm of what they are worth. And still way more than what the rifles where purchased for at the time they where bought.

It sucks trying to put them on consignment or anything like that. Best bet would be to sell them all to one place, or person, and not have to worry about haggling for each one over time.

The scopes aren't worth that much, especially the Simmons. Most people would just throw them out, and put something else in them. The Simmons do not increase the price.

The new blued synthetic tikka T3X goes on sale for $900 in alot of places. Sometimes you can even get a stainless one for that price. Which I did, new T3X stainless in 6.5 creed for $899.
 
t3's get listed for 1000-1200 (both new and used, weirdly enough) all the time but only actual sell under 950. A rifleman is a 300 scope at best.
 
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