Primer and Powde storage

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Well I'm at about that stage now and was thinking I would keep the primers in the original packages in the basement in a small sentry fire safe
and keep the powder in my gun vault...Sound Good?

I keep my ammo in a metal cabinet near the safe.


Thanks
 
Powders and primers should be kept in a "soft" container that will easily rupture if they should ignite. (Canadian law requires a wooden cabinet with no ferrous metal fittings or fasteners.) Keeping powder in a safe or strong cabinet can create a bomb if they ever get hot enough to ignite.
 
there you go.


Legal Info for Reloaders
Edward L. Burlew, LL.B., Barrister and Solicitor, CSSA
Reloaders, Powder horns, and Gunpowder
Most of the sportsmen who reload are very careful in handling powder and primers. They know that it is very important to provide for their own safety and their family�s safety. They keep their powder under lock and key when not using it. But some often forget the powder in the reloader.

This is the same powder that must be kept under lock and key. This is a requirement of the Explosives Act. There is room to interpret gun powder as ammunition under the Criminal Code and this could be interpreted as unsafe storage of ammunition.

To keep your rights safe always empty your reloader and lock the gunpowder up. Keep your powder horn under lock and key.

These same comments apply to primers.

Store Your Powder Safely
The storage of gun powder is regulated by the explosives act, r.S.C. 1990. you may keep a maximum of 12 kg. In a dwelling if it in a suitable container. this is specified to be a box of 3/4 inch thick wood, no ferrous fittings (use brass, bronze, or glue), be locked and labelled aexplosives@. only 2 kg. Can be out of the box at any one time to be used. this means that when you are finished reloading you must return the unused powder to the locked box. the ministry of energy mines and resources recommends that anyone who contravenes this be charged under the criminal code with unsafe storage of ammunition. to the ministry there is no distinction between black powder and smokeless powder. primers are to be similarly stored.

Reloaders Bulletin
To clarify a number of questions dealing with the storage of gun powder this bulletin has been prepared from the Explosives Act, Statutes of Canada, chapter 59 and after consulting with the relevant department heads.

Black powder and smokeless powder are not distinguished. All information contained assumes that the quantities are aggregate.

Primers include boxer style, berdan style and percussion caps. These are not distinguished and quantities are to be aggregated.

Storage by an individual who is not licensed as an explosives magazine:

at a home, a detached house, is not to exceed 10 kg in the aggregate
if kept in a separate out building dedicated to the storage of gun powder then the storage can be up to 75 kg in the aggregate (this is a detached store)
A detached store is defined in the Explosives Act. In short this says the storage building must have a door of substantial construction that opens outward which is closed and locked except during access, there is ventilation, no iron or steel is exposed to the interior, which shall be scrupulously clean, no water to affect the stored explosive, no other inflammable substance shall be in the store or even nearby. No matches, fire, lights, oiled waste, iron, steel or anything that can cause spontaneous combustion can be in the store. No smoking. No iron or steel tools in the shed. Only copper brass, copper, gun metal, wood. The exterior shall have AExplosives@ in large contrasting letters. A wood building of 3/4" plywood is recommended.

If you keep your gun powder at home then you must keep it in a Asuitable container@, away from other inflammable substances such as paint, thinner, lighter fluids, other ammunition and it can be removed if there is a fire. The container shall not be of steel for iron, it must be kept locked except when being accessed, only gun powder and primers are to be kept in it. Suitable materials are wood and copper. No iron or steel fittings. It must be scrupulously clean. The word AExplosives@ in large contrasting letters must be on the outside. A box of 3/4" plywood is recommended. This is what I call the Alocked box@.

When you are reloading you should be in an area dedicated to reloading, no fumes, matches, smoking, no lights that can cause an explosion. Only 2 kg can be out of the locked box and in the room with you. At the end of the session all the explosives must be returned to the locked box. And you cannot resell or give away these cartridges. If you intend to, you need a license and more restrictions must be met. If you do not follow this you will be liable to be charged with unsafe storage under the Criminal Code.

There is no present limit to the number of primers you can possess. Keep in touch with 1-888-GUN LOSS to find out of future restrictions.

Importation is another matter. Without a permit to import you may not import more than:

2000 safety cartridges
1000 percussion caps (or primers)
500 primed safety cartridges
2 kg of smokeless powder
A business that sells gun powder and explosives must comply with the storage provisions and the maximum gun powder allowed to be stored is 12 kg unless in a separate detached store. 10,000 percussion caps or primers are the maximum, and they have to be a separate locked box not with the gun powder.

All reloaders are reminded to check their fire insurance and leases to see if they are allowed to have explosives on their premises.

Presently there is no limit to the number of safety cartridges (loaded ammunition) except that it must be reasonable as required for a rifle, revolver or shotgun where a person may lawfully so possess the firearm. This last statement from the Explosives Act is insidious because if you can not legally own a weapon because it is prohibited you are not qualified to own the ammunition for it because it is not reasonable.

In the mean time remember to empty the powder hopper on your reloader after every session and put it in a 3/4 inch plywood locked box made with brass screws. No iron nails. Put the word Explosives on it and keep it away from paint and paint thinner.
 
Thanks boo,

I guess you just make them or does anyone sell them with locks?

Glad I asked

I've never seen anyone selling them. Might be an opportunity...

I just made mine. I used 1" ply ('cause I had it) and used glue and dowels (5/16" about 3" long each) to form the carcass and hold it together. I then made a couple of 5/16" aluminum pieces for the locks to go through, and screwed those (internally of course) to the lid and body with brass screws. The hinges were solid brass from Home Dump-o. Took a couple of hours (and beers). A table saw made it quick and easy.
 
It would be a good Idea even for pre-fab ones I don't have the tools, space or time at the moment. Think I'll have to shop around. I was about to get started tonight.
Oh well, nothing easy as usual :)
 
I've never seen anyone selling them. Might be an opportunity...

I just made mine. I used 1" ply ('cause I had it) and used glue and dowels (5/16" about 3" long each) to form the carcass and hold it together. I then made a couple of 5/16" aluminum pieces for the locks to go through, and screwed those (internally of course) to the lid and body with brass screws. The hinges were solid brass from Home Dump-o. Took a couple of hours (and beers). A table saw made it quick and easy.

Give home depot the measurements and they will cut it for you. I had one put together this way with brass screws and hinges in about 20 minutes.
 
Wally world has "Plano" plastic tackle boxes on sale right now . . . everything is plastic - plastic clamps and the pin in the hinge is plastic (also a hole in the cover and base to lock it) . . . for $10 it would make a quick and easy storage box but from what I've read here wood is the only material allowed? Is plastic dangerous because it has the potential to build a static charge?
Thanks
 
Plastic in a fire will melt thru or burn quickly, plus static charge problem. Wood like 3/4" plywood takes longer to burn thru, and allows gases to vent without dangerous fragments.
 
Mine in an old wooden truck from the thrift store. That's where I would look.

Mine has a hasp for a lock and is painted in a garish orange colour. My wife originally wanted to paint it but the "Nuclear Pumpkin" or whatever you want to call the shade has grown on me.
 
I made my primer and power storage box a few years ago using 1" plywood and brass hardware. I put two 1" plywood pieces together in the center of one box to separate the primers and the powder. Didn't cost much or take long to build.

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I bought a wooden kitchen cabinet when it was on sale at Home Depot for $100 and put a $5 hasp and padlock on it. Not sure if the fasteners are ferrous or not; I suppose I could replace them.
 
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