Primer did not ignite. What now?

I have reloaded many thousands of rounds over the years and find a dud primer once in a while. I just pull the bullet off and decap to see what happened and put the bad primer in my plastic bottle with the others and sell the lot for scrap brass, it does build up over the years and I make some money in the end.
 
I assume those are the same as their 1000 round bulk box .223 ammo, which I have had many failures to ignite with. Usually in bolt rifles, but sometimes in a "black" rifle.
Yup. Part of the 1000 rounds in a metal ammo can (10 boxes of 100 rounds each), bought many years ago.
 
I've had a few CC br4 fail to ignite this year. In most cases it seems the primer was bunk. In one instance I found a dead beetle in the bottom of the case which had stopped the powder from igniting.
 
Pull the bullet. (I use pliers and the die hole in my press.)

I do the same thing.


as for waiting for a misfire that may be a hangfire I don't bother. The worst I have ever seen was some very old 38S&W that would click and then bang about half a second later, it was in a revolver so not many safe options there.

In a bolt rifle or semi any time I have ever had a misfire it just gets ejected, or recock the rifle and hit it again, oh it might be a hang fire and cook off but outside of the chamber is not really that big of an issue. If it hasn't fired after 2-3 seconds its unlikely to fire at all.
 
It's time to open it up like corpse and figure out why it did not go boom - NCIS style!

Or just brake it apart.

Throw the powder in your garden, bullet back onto your reloading bench, case into a glass of water and then garbage.

Glass of water?
 
I have reloaded many thousands of rounds over the years and find a dud primer once in a while. I just pull the bullet off and decap to see what happened and put the bad primer in my plastic bottle with the others and sell the lot for scrap brass, it does build up over the years and I make some money in the end.

I'm thinking decapping the primer would not result in the primer going off? It needs to have a sharp hit like the fireing pin to ignite it yes?
 
I'm thinking decapping the primer would not result in the primer going off? It needs to have a sharp hit like the fireing pin to ignite it yes?

The primer is unlikely to fire during the de-capping process, the priming mixture responds more favorably to a sharp impact rather than steady pressure. One of the benefits of leaning to load with a Lee Loader is that you get so many primers popping off when seating, you become immune to it. You learn quickly not to have your face over the cartridge when priming. If the primer does fire in the de-capping process, and I don't ever recall it happening, big deal, it doesn't matter. Put a drop of oil on the inside surface of the faulty primer, and in a few hours it will be all but inert. As an experiment, after a bit of time has passed, put the oiled primer on a steel plate and hit it with a hammer, you might see nothing, or you might see a bit of smoke, but there is no flash or bang.

As for the powder that was in the cartridge, unless the powder comes out in clumps, which it might if heavily compressed. or unless there was partial ignition, I wouldn't throw it away. What you should do though is brush out the inside of the cartridge case to ensure that no powder remains, or when you load that case again it could result in an overload.

If you don't have a kinetic bullet puller, you should get one, but when I have a lot a bullets to pull, such as when pulling FMJs so I can make Mexican Match, I use a pair of plier style wire crimpers. the type with the strippers on the inside of the handles. The stripper "teeth" bite firmly into the bullet jacket, allowing you to pull the bullet with little or no damage other than a couple of pin pricks that are barely noticeable. These crimpers are often found with wide flat handles that tend to line flat on the top of the press, and provide a large surface area so the bullet is pulled in alignment with the cartridge neck.
 
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I've had primers flip sideways in the press and I've crushed them into the primer pocket that way. None have ever gone off being crushed.

Ohh good. Its not only me. My worn out pro-jector press does that 1 in 10 primers. I dont use it for primers an more. Odd to see one sideways crushed flat into the pocket
 
A number of possible reasons:

Slow powder, light bullet, less than a compressed load. Primer did not create enough pressure to get the powder ignited. Most common with standard primers and ball powder. 4350 is not difficult to ignite, so probably not this issue.

Bullet seated long and engaged the rifling and kept the case shoulder off the chamber shoulder, cushioning the blow. Not likely with such a light bullet.

Oil in bolt and cold weather. A primer is ignited with shock (high velocity hit). Cold oil can slow down the firing pin. The dent shows energy, but not velocity. Squirt some G96 or brake cleaner through the bolt.

No powder in the case. If the bullet did not pop out of the case, this is a good bet.

Primer not seated deep enough to bottom out the anvil legs.

Defective primer.

Pull the bullet. (I use pliers and the die hole in my press.) Is there powder? Virgin powder? Means primer did not fire. Yellow or lumpy powder? primer fired but no ignition.

Deprime as normal and examine the primer. Did it fire? (Don't worry about the primer. You could not set it off if you tried.)

Please report what you find.

Thanks for the help! I still haven't dealt with it but after my investigation I'm going to call this an improper set of the primer. My daughter was helping me load and using the press for the first time. Up until now I hadn't built a "seating depth of primer" check into my reloading procedure. I figure when the firing pin stuck it it was pushed into the primer pocket just enough to steal that energy just enough for the primer to not ignite.
>270 win 110gr hollow point 54 Gr IMR-4350 and Winchester magnum primer.
 
Happy New Year you guys, thanks for the input. I haven't had a chance to try to fire it again yet. I did come to the conclusion above. I intend to build a "primer seating depth" check into my reloading procedures and carry on.
All the best.
 
Every reloader should have a bullet puller imo.
Kinetic / impact pullers are cheap, less than 20 bucks on amazon.

Ohh good. Its not only me. My worn out pro-jector press does that 1 in 10 primers. I dont use it for primers an more. Odd to see one sideways crushed flat into the pocket

This has nothing to do with being worn out. hard if not impossible to wear this type of press out with regular lubrication.
The angle on the bottom of the metal strip that pushes the primer cup arm over is too sharp so the sideway movement is a bit abrupt causing primers to flip, this can be fixed.
 
Thanks for the help! I still haven't dealt with it but after my investigation I'm going to call this an improper set of the primer. My daughter was helping me load and using the press for the first time. Up until now I hadn't built a "seating depth of primer" check into my reloading procedure. I figure when the firing pin stuck it it was pushed into the primer pocket just enough to steal that energy just enough for the primer to not ignite.
>270 win 110gr hollow point 54 Gr IMR-4350 and Winchester magnum primer.

Thanks for the update!

:cheers:
 
Every reloader should have a bullet puller imo.
Kinetic / impact pullers are cheap, less than 20 bucks on amazon.

$20 I'd rather kick in towards more components.

If I ever need to pull enough bullets that I figure I'm hurting if I don't re-use them, I'll bore out a set of pliers to grab the bullet at the top of the press. Meanwhile, it's side cutters, and it goes in the trash.

Kinetic pullers may be cheap, but I already have case holders and a reloading press.
 
This has nothing to do with being worn out. hard if not impossible to wear this type of press out with regular lubrication.
The angle on the bottom of the metal strip that pushes the primer cup arm over is too sharp so the sideway movement is a bit abrupt causing primers to flip, this can be fixed.


Thanks,ill look into it again. I had it all apart and cleaned and lubed everything. It seemed like it was maybe not clicking into the location until late in the stroke so flipping the primer as it clicks in place by catching the edge of it.

But that even should be adjustable.

Ill look into it again. Id love to be able to prime with it. Ill keep an eye on what you said. That would be an easy fix
 
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