Primer Shipment, Lower Prices
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LOL I was looking at that too!!
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- inside a huge cloud of MOSQUITOS
I recently payed $75 for 1000 CCI BR-2's!
What gibberish are you spouting off? You contradict yourself in the same post. Is it political panic buying or is it commodity pricing?
If you even looked at metal indices, you would see that there is has been a downward trend in all metal pricing since late December/early January. That, coupled with the strong Canadian dollar is what has caused the pricing of primers to drop, if anything. Given that lead times for manufacturing are between 1-6 months, the trend is clear.
Your "prediction" was based on incorrect assumptions and you were lucky.
Anyone with half a brain could ascertain that I stated it was panic buying, not commodity prices. Also, contrary to your own gibberish, copper prices have been steadily rising , not declining since Dec/Jan as you incorrectly state. And regardless of fluctuations in copper and/or lead prices, these fluctuations have very little bearing on the 50%-100% price increases in ammo and ammo components.
Is that clear enough or do I need to explain it again?
Sorry, I meant 27.97, not 29.97. Actually, their current price of $27.97 is up from the $23 or so they list in their current catalog.
Speaking of half a brain, simpleton. I suggest you read your own post and see how you are talking out of both sides of your ass. As well, copper prices have ONLY JUST started to go back up and they are not at levels they were last year. So the effect hasnt been felt yet due to production lead times. The a strong dollar is also counteracting this, which you casually ignore to factor in.
You dont need to explain your erroneous conclusion again, you made it clear you are talking out of your ass.
Anyhow, this is a derailment of P&D's post and excellent news. i just hate it when people try to be smug and post bad info; it needs to be corrected
Sorry I did not mean to start this post with the intention of everyone jumping on me and others for charging too much or challenging low prices elsewhere. Our retail prices are based on our cost. We average out our prices so that we can be consistent for similar products but from different manufacturers. This means that we are making a little bit more on some makes and a little less on others so we can be consistant in quoting prices. The $42 reflects the cost averaging of all the primers (not including bench rest style). We bring in (and sell) lots of primers and other reloading components. That means we have no great big warehouse that we sit on millions of primers waiting to take advantage of low wholesale cost against a later high demand. We often sell out of one shipment while waiting for the next delivery. We do not claim to have the best price on primers in Canada but feel we are being as fair as we can and still make enough profit to bring in the next shipment to stay in business in the future. Phil.
Holy ####, some of you would complain of a free handjob.
I don't have the luxury of having multiple gun stores to get my supplies.
I'm loyal to absolutely no one. Bottom line is the $$$.
I try to keep my gun money local, some prices can't be beat, some can.
Someone comes on here and actually LOWERS the price to try to LOWER the cost on to the consumer and he gets jumped on? WTF?
Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how many other gun shops do this?
Anyone?
I don't have the luxury of having multiple gun stores to get my supplies.
I'm loyal to absolutely no one. Bottom line is the $$$.
I try to keep my gun money local, some prices can't be beat, some can.
Someone comes on here and actually LOWERS the price to try to LOWER the cost on to the consumer and he gets jumped on? WTF?
Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how many other gun shops do this?
Anyone?
Light Infantry, I fear you are a danger to yourself and your family. I post to share information to help all Gunnuters so that we can keep the supply side of the food chain honest and on their toes. If my correct prediction ( see my other posts) offended you, that is something you need to manage in your mind.
You immediately took exception to my post, and became rude and aggressive. It is behavior like yours that gives gun ownership such a bad name in Canada.
I am a well respected businessman in my community, and heavily involved in charitable initiatives in two of Canada's major cities. In other words, my behavior in the eyes of my peers has done nothing to tarnish the image of gun ownership in a country that views all of us with suspicion and trepidation.
You are obviously a confrontational and perhaps frustrated individual, why not do something good for your community instead of attacking good folks on this forum. It might do wonders for the anger.
Your behavior profile probably feeds on reaction, so you may no longer expect one from myself. Have a good life my friend
You immediately took exception to my post, and became rude and aggressive. It is behavior like yours that gives gun ownership such a bad name in Canada.
I am a well respected businessman in my community, and heavily involved in charitable initiatives in two of Canada's major cities. In other words, my behavior in the eyes of my peers has done nothing to tarnish the image of gun ownership in a country that views all of us with suspicion and trepidation.
You are obviously a confrontational and perhaps frustrated individual, why not do something good for your community instead of attacking good folks on this forum. It might do wonders for the anger.
Your behavior profile probably feeds on reaction, so you may no longer expect one from myself. Have a good life my friend
Light Infantry, I fear you are a danger to yourself and your family. I post to share information to help all Gunnuters so that we can keep the supply side of the food chain honest and on their toes. If my correct prediction ( see my other posts) offended you, that is something you need to manage in your mind.
You immediately took exception to my post, and became rude and aggressive. It is behavior like yours that gives gun ownership such a bad name in Canada.
I am a well respected businessman in my community, and heavily involved in charitable initiatives in two of Canada's major cities. In other words, my behavior in the eyes of my peers has done nothing to tarnish the image of gun ownership in a country that views all of us with suspicion and trepidation.
You are obviously a confrontational and perhaps frustrated individual, why not do something good for your community instead of attacking good folks on this forum. It might do wonders for the anger.
Your behavior profile probably feeds on reaction, so you may no longer expect one from myself. Have a good life my friend
When reason and proper information is placed in front of you, people like you deflect and launch personal attacks. Nice.
I seem to recall calling you on your incorrect summation of the market and calling into question a dealers pricing. YOU are the one who started the attacks by a throwing the "half brain" attack. If this is what you call being respectful etc etc, then you are a joke. I immediately took exception to your post because it was completely WRONG. What don't you understand? If anyone has been on this board for even a little while knows that when you spout off BS you will be called on it. I called you on it and you launched into personal attacks. Go get a mirror, read your post and look into it. You may be shocked at what you see.
If we are pulling our dicks out, well I too, and extremely successful businessman with and work with youth groups and charities. Anyhow what has that got to do with this?
I fear for your business. Seems you run it on erroneous information, bulls**t and misguided analysis. People like you cannot stand to be called on their "facts", and then vehemently attack people personally because they have no other argument left in their mental arsenal.
My life is good. Thanks.
Edited to add: Thanks to the individual who will remain anonymous for the PM. Well apparantly you have been called on your market analysis BS in other threads previously, as well as your buying habits and "strategies", i.e. getting ripped off in Canada and doing all your shopping in the US. You seem to be playing that old broken record over and over again. Seems like you are angry at the world and feel you need to take extreme measures to fix it. Relax a bit, the world, contrary to your twisted view point, is not out to get you. I now understand your posts. You seem to project what you are feeling onto other people and believe that is how they view the world and how they feel (maybe a situation of misery loves company, feelings of insecurity?). Clearly a cry for help. Get some help. If not for you, then for your family.
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- WMU247 near Edmonton
Thanks Phil
I hate having to pay more for anything and have been using up my small stock of primers waiting for better sales. I managed to find some primers at the last gunshow so I've got a little stock on hand.
$42/1000 is not a bad price, I've seen prices up to $62/1000, and I would like to pay $35/1000 but I don't find a lot priced like that.
I hate having to pay more for anything and have been using up my small stock of primers waiting for better sales. I managed to find some primers at the last gunshow so I've got a little stock on hand.
$42/1000 is not a bad price, I've seen prices up to $62/1000, and I would like to pay $35/1000 but I don't find a lot priced like that.
Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Chemainus B.C.
In preparation for my next trip to the city and my usual shopping trip
, there is a 'goodie' I'm looking for. Hornady has an item available called an 'Ammunition Concentricity Tool'.
Do you happen to have this item available at your store? Or, is there a similar item made by another manufacturer such as RCBS that you may have available?
Phil, I am certain everyone, including myself, welcomed your post indicating that your prices had actually come down and I certainly did not intend to jump on you.
I have read enough of your posts to judge that you are a straight shooter and probably a great dealer to your local market. When you said that your own cost on primers was higher than what some others have paid at the retail level recently, I fully believed you.
My own limited experience with retail a few decades back taught me a few lessons regarding the complexities of the importer/ wholesale/distributor channels in Canada. My retail venture lasted only 18 months, as I realized over that time that my "wholesale" prices were higher than what established retail players were selling the stuff for.
I admit that I have long complained about prices in Canada, but certainly in the area of firearms and ammo, I surmise that the cause is due more intricacies at the import/wholesale level. My pointing out on this thread that I paid $ 27.97 , less my 10% discount, was not meant as an attack on you, but rather, it was meant to allow anyone reading this thread food for thought.
To the panic hoarders, the message was to relax, not play into the distributors hand, to hold off when prices get ridiculous, to understand supply and demand, and never to assume that prices ONLY go up.
To retailers whose cost is higher than what some of us are paying, the message ( take it or leave it of course ) was to ask your distributors some very hard questions. PM me and I will be more than happy to fax you my sales receipt if your distributor doubts my purchase.
In my defense, and yours, I did point out that this discount retailer was perpetually out of stock, so getting these prices was a matter of timing, pure luck, and patience. Also, I clearly stated that when I absolutely needed primers at my local range, I have reluctantly paid around $40 / 1000. So I sincerely hope I wasn't too one-sided in my attempt to share information.
If others perceive my attempt to share information and insight as anything else than what it was intended, that is their problem. And I will certainly continue to freely share my insight as I deem appropriate for the good of others. And when I get attacked for doing so, I will defend myself, to a point. However, when frustrated, angry members with a pathetic history of attacking many Gunnutz members on various threads and topics ( archived on this site ) want to drag me into their private hell hole, I will disengage.
But I can assure you that my response to your post was certainly not an attack, as you have shown yourself to be a class act, and a great sponsor.
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I never felt any of your posts in particular were attacking me or other retailers but I thank you anyway for that clarification. I think the price gouging goes deeper even than the distributors as the manufactures have been having their way with everyone down the food chain all the way to end consumer. Keep in mind that most price difference can be attributed mainly to when the retailer bought the product but once in a while they (we) will try to take advantage of a shortage in the market to make additional profit. How much profit one takes especially during times of shortages speaks to the integrity and longevity of the dealer. Most consumers have long memories and they might buy now out of a lack of choice but won't be there in the future when the products are readily available. Phil.
