Hot off my BB: Steyr Arms informs me today personally (and another 3,000,000 of their closest friends) that the SSG 69 is "set to be retired after 40 outstanding years in service" They have also announced that one of their distributors (CDNN Sports - Abilene TX) has decided to buy 1000 units before the production line stops.
Probably old news SSG69 Discontinued
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mebiuspower
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I shot one, it's not really up to par in modern times but a great classic none the less.
If you can find an SSG with a factory wooden stock ... at a price you want to pay ... Yes... buy one. I bought a "M" Pro that had been bedded in a Robertson replacement stock and after replacing the magazine/trigger guard housing it has been a very nice rifle to shoot .. accurate enough for me in .270W and the stock is very nice!! As Mr Robertsons always are. Course it doesnt have the long barrel tenon that the SSG has ... but the barrel at least is threaded so I suppose if needed it could be re barreled. The big attraction of these rear locking Steyrs to me anyway is their consistency ... and smoothness!
Pfff... SSG69 in factory wooden stock, Holland & Holland double is cheaper and more abundant than that. I don't think anyone but Steyr would re-barrel SSG69, I think it is heat pressed or something wicked like that.
Also, what would be "accurate enough" in angular measurement? )))
Also, what would be "accurate enough" in angular measurement? )))
r34skyline
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The ssg69 was pretty much the first out of the box sub moa guns out there.
And yes steyr heat presses their barrels, and yes they will rebarrel. Not that it needs it often, a ssg69 with over 7000 rounds still shot sub moa. 7000 rounds of match grade stuff? Ya that would take a while. And outshoots most other rivaling options.
I am actually interested if these come on here at a fair price. Not interested in wood. Synthetic stock for me.
Yes but a Holland & Holland is a whimsical British "gun" more akin to an accoutrement than a serious Austrian "Scharfschützengewehr"
My understanding is that in the event a private owner was wealthy enough to afford the ammunition to shoot out an SSG barrel - They could return the barreled action to Steyr and Steyr would replace the barrel AND the action. Good as new!! Assuming your stock hadn't cracked etc ...
As for angular measurement (discounting the long beaten zone) .. accurate enough for me would not impress anyone on this forum - certainly cant achieve the routine 5 shot sub 1/2 inch groups at 100m -- often it is a feat for me just to get two quick shots off standing unsupported at 100m that could hit a breadplate (a large one) . What makes me happy is to see the same round groups that formed at 100 still appear round at 300m and reasonably round at 600 (albeit more like a pattern than a group!) But the endearing quality about this rifle is it feeds VERY well, is Very smooth - has an excellent trigger, AND ITS IS PREDICTABLE.
Wait wait, they replace both barrel and the action, but leave the old stock? I mean... I don't get it honestly. Stock and plastic guard and magazine are the weakest points of 69, yet they will keep that and replace everything good for "re-barrel"? Plus shipping both ways, plus work. Makes no sense to me whatsoever, just buy another SSG.
you mean new? used? old (as in 40 years old or 5 years old) number/condition of magazines? rings? condition of ALL the plastic including those annoying little plastic "bridges" that retain the magazine? etc etc. Nice to have stuff like the test target?
I have an early one (1977) and it is an honest 1/2 moa gun with 168 GMM. This is even more impressive when you take into consideration that the groups were shot with the Kahles ZF 6x scope. They are extremely accurate guns!
Shot mine out to 600+meters one afternoon and could hold 1moa with a 6x scope with a German Post reticle.
Shot mine out to 600+meters one afternoon and could hold 1moa with a 6x scope with a German Post reticle.
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Its the difference between buying a "long block" chevy v8 or a "short block" ... in this case I guess the factory has found (in the "soon to be" past) it is simpler to walk over to a shelf and pull the SSG equivalent of a "long block" off and send it out! As opposed to trying to pull (stretch?) the action off the long barrel tenon...
Maybe they throw in a new plastic (makrolon?) stock with the "rebarrel" given the raping you might expect to receive -- which of course is of no account to the government buyer!
r34skyline
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Around the $1700 new is what I would call a fair price.
They can rebarrel it, unless the action is broken or shows extensive wear they generally don't or at least that's what I got told by Steyr.
Speaking of action, I'm very curious how it can be heat pressed and locks to the rear of the receiver at the same time. Do they rotate the barrel after it is inserted to receiver or it all hangs on the heat press? With all the pressure I don't see what would prevent it to slide forward from the action.
I do get how you can heat press a barrel into action with a bolt locking into the barrel itself, but rear locking and heat pressed does not assemble together in me mind. Yet it is obviously a very proven combat weapon.
PS
This is it, right? Barrel just slides in?
I do get how you can heat press a barrel into action with a bolt locking into the barrel itself, but rear locking and heat pressed does not assemble together in me mind. Yet it is obviously a very proven combat weapon.
PS
This is it, right? Barrel just slides in?
Just between us girls -- its worth clarifying that this apparently only true of the Steyr SSG which is unique for its longer barrel tenon to facilitate this method of construction (not unlike the very fancy and accurate Anschutz 54 actions which also get pinned) presumably Anschutz and Steyr know something about this construction and the advantages to accuracy that others do not! Other rear locking Steyr rifles have traditional threaded barrels and this is the way that my Model "M" Pro is set up. Which doesnt hurt my feelings at all
I'm under the impression that SSG 69 is completely different from SSG 04, SSG 08. The later 2 are in fact the same action as SSB hunter actions on all the "non SSG" Steyrs - front locking, 2 lug and a bushing thing. Are you saying that SSG 04 / SSG 08 are pressed barrels while ProHunter and SX and the new hunter line are not heat pressed barrels?
Speaking of action, I'm very curious how it can be heat pressed and locks to the rear of the receiver at the same time. Do they rotate the barrel after it is inserted to receiver or it all hangs on the heat press? With all the pressure I don't see what would prevent it to slide forward from the action.
I do get how you can heat press a barrel into action with a bolt locking into the barrel itself, but rear locking and heat pressed does not assemble together in me mind. Yet it is obviously a very proven combat weapon.
PS
This is it, right? Barrel just slides in?
"This is it, right? Barrel just slides in?" yep -- that's right - just slides right in ... although I have read that they employ many tons of pressure to "encourage" the sliding as well as exploiting the miracles of expansion and contraction of metal when exposed to high heat (the receiver) and relatively low temp (the barrel) -- maybe be they add some of that Loctite for bearings ??!!?? to make sure it NEVER comes out
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Now that's magic. CNC machined spiral groves on bolts and outside of a barrel and all that american style "custom rifle show off tricks" - meh. Having a tech and knowhow to build a join out of nothing while no one does it this way - that's magic.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke
