Problem with closing the action with some of the rounds I loaded

stubblejumper said:
I have deprimed live primers on several occasions with any issues, just wear glasses, and keep your face out of the line of fire. By the way, you seat bullets, you don't seed them. And make sure that your seating die does not contact the shoulder of an empty cartridge case, you might be pushing back the shoulders and deforming the cases, so that they won't chamber.
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Thanks, How do i make sure the seating die isn't pushing back the shoulders? Yesterday when i tried to re size them i noticed that the lube on the shoulder was being stripped. Dose that mean my seating die is to far in the press and I should back it off?

I'm assuming that if the brass that deformed by pushing back the shoulders is no good anymore. Is that right?
 
stubblejumper said:
I have deprimed live primers on several occasions with any issues, just wear glasses, and keep your face out of the line of fire. By the way, you seat bullets, you don't seed them. And make sure that your seating die does not contact the shoulder of an empty cartridge case, you might be pushing back the shoulders and deforming the cases, so that they won't chamber.
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Thanks, How do i make sure the seating die isn't pushing back the shoulders? Yesterday when i tried to re size them i noticed that the lube on the shoulder was being stripped. Dose that mean my seating die is to far in the press and I should back it off?

I'm assuming that if the brass that deformed by pushing back the shoulders is no good anymore. Is that right?
 
Thanks, How do i make sure the seating die isn't pushing back the shoulders? Yesterday when i tried to re size them i noticed that the lube on the shoulder was being stripped. Dose that mean my seating die is to far in the press and I should back it off?

I'm assuming that if the brass that deformed by pushing back the shoulders is no good anymore. Is that right?
 
If your using a lee trimmer specific to the cartridge you're loading it would be impossible for your OAL to be to long if it bottoms on the shell holder. I don't buy that the seating die is moving the shoulder back, if this was the case the bullets would be seated past the ogive and who would do that. The only thing I can think is that previous loads were possibly hot enough to expand the case head or it pushed the shoulders forward and the case isn't being sized enough by the die being used. If the case is trimmed to length and it has passed through an FL die to the shellholder and bullets are seated to a normal length then I would be inclined to go find another cheap FL die(Lee)and try sizing again.

Oh and don't worry about primers being pushed out with the decapping pin, as stated, I throw on safety glasses for doing this....have yet to see one ignite. And I wouldn't back out the decapping rod and size, there's lube and particles of carbon and brass inside your die that could contaminate the primer causing a FTF and you would be pulling the bullet again....not worth the 5 cents in my opinion.
 
Skeezels said:
Thanks, How do i make sure the seating die isn't pushing back the shoulders? Yesterday when i tried to re size them i noticed that the lube on the shoulder was being stripped. Dose that mean my seating die is to far in the press and I should back it off?

I'm assuming that if the brass that deformed by pushing back the shoulders is no good anymore. Is that right?
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You shouldn't lube the shoulder: The lubricant effectively becomes a hydraulic fluid in the close tolerances of the die, and since fluids do not compress, the pressure will dent the shoulder.

Sizing will push the shoulder back a small amount to restore the case to "original" (as per that die manufacturers measure) dimensions. Chambers vary from rifle to rifle, and in terms of thousandths of an inch, there are non alike. When you lube the case, roll it on a lube pad so the body is lightly coated. Neck lube should be a dry lube, unless you are going to clean the cases after sizing. I expect everyone has used to much lube at genesis, and unless the dents are beyond small, the case should be ok. I use an ultrasonic case cleaner, so after a preliminary clean(nothing abrasive present), cases are lubed (I stick the neck into the lube pad) resized, trimmed then cleaned before reloaded. When I was a grasshopper, I got away without trimming cases (apparently my 222 has a long chamber or the cases were short enough previously), and didn't get bit but I quickly learned and have not had this issue yet.
 
Awesome!
Thanks for all the great info. I'm going to try to pick up a Lee re sizing die and try that out then re size them all and knock out the primers.
 
1. Sort your brass.
2. Get headspace gage to help set die
3. Trimm to spec
4. Make some dummy rounds to try, check coal incase your jamming bullet in to lands.
 
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Thanks, How do i make sure the seating die isn't pushing back the shoulders?
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Place an empty case in the shellholder.

Drop the press handle all the way down, with no die in the press.

Thread the seating die into the press, until it bottoms on the case.

Back the die off 1/4 turn,tighten the lock ring, and tighten the set screw in the lock ring.
 
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Skeezels said:
Thanks, How do i make sure the seating die isn't pushing back the shoulders? Yesterday when i tried to re size them i noticed that the lube on the shoulder was being stripped. Dose that mean my seating die is to far in the press and I should back it off?

I'm assuming that if the brass that deformed by pushing back the shoulders is no good anymore. Is that right?
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go here read all... but pay attention to step #19

http://www.rcbs.com/guide/step_by_step_reloading.aspx#


^^^^^^ this link should be a sticky :cheers:
 
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