Problem with Importing Flintlock

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I am in the process of buying a Flintlock from a fellow in the U.S. He took it to the post office only to be told that they will not ship firearms to Canada and that includes Flintlocks. Has anybody else run into this problem?
 
Haven't heard of such a problem. I doubt if there is any new "policy" - rather just somebody behind the counter who hasn't got a clue what they're talking about. Might help to talk to somebody else a bit higher up the chain of command - possibly with appropriate confirmarion that flintlocks are not "firearms" subject to any restrictions in the US, and are not subject to registration or the like in Canada (unless they are pistols, of course!)
 
Importing.....

I found out in a big hurry that possessing a PAL doesn't mean that anyone trusts you to acquire a firearm from the U.S.A. No trust....isn't that why we should rid Canada of the Liberal party? Due to the rifle I wanted being $129.99 there as opposed to $369.00 here I purchased it, had it held and called CFC. I was advised I would have to register it and wait for my Reg. certificate to arrive AND that I would need an "Import Permit" which would be obtained from the Dept. of Foreign Affairs. I called Customs and they advised I would need to have the Reg. certificate in my hand when I brought the rifle through customs and my PAL...no mention of the import permit. Both Reg. cert. and the import permit were ordered on the same day.....I received the Reg. Cert. in ten days...the application for the import permit still hasn't arrived....and wasn't required!!! I came through the border in five minutes...was treated with respect by the Customs officials and am home. CFC had mentioned that I would have thirty days to verify the rifle after getting it home...but I received a Reg. Cert., not a temporary Reg. Cert. so I don't believe it will have to be verified. Flintlocks are not registered here or there so why would they not allow shipping by post? Go to another post office.
 
It falls under the classification of Antique according to the SOR 98 464 "Regulations Prescribing Antiques"

There should be no problem with importing a Flintlock into Canada, or exporting one out of the states as they are not considered to be a firearm under either country's laws
 
The USPS has a prohibition against shipping firearms out of the country. The argument will centre around convincing the mail depot that a flintlock is not a firearm.

From the USPS website, prohibitions to Canada:

Firearms, including prohibited and restricted weapons, may not be mailed to Canadian addressees from outside Canada.
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Also of note:

14. Pursuant to the Canada Customs Act and a need to heighten border security, Canada will deny entry of all postal items (except postcards) that do not bear complete sender and addressee information in roman letters and arabic numerals.
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RE Flintlock

Skip , you have hit the nail on the head. It is the U.S. post that was giving me grief. THe seller has backed out of the deal because of this complication. I am very dissapointed! There is a large two day Muzzleloadind show in Munroe Washington, march 11/12. I plan on going down , buying a nice Flinter and driving it back across the border. Hopefully that will go smoothly.
 
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Flintlock rifles are mailable, but you may need to convince the local postmaster - there should be some kind of USPS interpretation bulletin for this. Alternatively, have the firearm shipped in parts - barrel in one shipment, stock and lock in another. Should be good to go then- parts is parts.
 
Anything black powder in the US in not aq firearm, at all... You can go to any store and purchase whatever you want as long as it is black powder. If it is a flintlock or matchlock it is not classified as a firearm here in canada and it does not need any pal.. even sir has said so in the catalogue..
last spring I brought a black powder cannon accross and had similar concerns. I stopped at the canadian side of the crossing to warn them that I was bringing this item back the next day.. to make any of the calls that need be..
No problems with the canadian side, but I was stopped by the american on an outgoing check.. you should have seen the expression of the customs guy when I told him I had a cannon in that crate..
They let me go through with no problems anyways.. black powder is not a firearm in the USA.
 
Skip can you get parts sent to Canada from the U.S??

Cause i got a guy who has an Antique Rolling block Action but i was under the impresion that parts cant be shiped up here???:confused:

I told the Guy get a crappy barrel with a bore bigger than 8.3 mil and stick it on the action and some crappy stock and THEN he could mail it.
 
I've printed off the applicable parts of the Canadian regs and included the URL to the website pages, and mailed or faxed these to the shipper in case (s)he had to convince the carrier of choice that this was a non-firearm up here. I've thought about doing the same for the U.S. BATF regs to prove that it's a non-firearm down there, too, but haven't had to yet.

Joel
 
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