proc's weekly range report - [and some questions]

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Hey Guys, since I'm so new to this handgun thing, I thought I would put up a thread so we can all mock my targets :redface:

I went through about a hundred rounds - The markings indicated I was at 10 yards, but I never measured it for certain - it looked close enough.

In time, the order of the targets is Top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right. The first three targets were slow and steady - take aim, squeeze the trigger. The final target was some rapid fire, just for interests sake, at the end of the session. What I get from these targets is that I am obviously pulling left

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As I was loading, I found a surprise from Remington - this cartridge was badly mangled. I'm glad I noticed it ...

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Finally, as I was policing my brass when I got home, I noticed several casings were rather badly mangled! Is this a symptom of shooter, or gun? At this point, I'm blaming the shooter...

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Somehow I got few .40 casings in there too as I was sweeping up. They are damned close to the same size, and I wouldn't have noticed if one of them hadn't gotten lodged into the larger .45 brass.

That's all for now :) Hopefully my next few targets will show some improvement. Regardless, I'm really enjoying this Norinco .45.

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-proc
 
My colt did the same thing to my cases the first time I shot it.
All I did was clean and lube the gun problem solved.
If your slide is too dry (not lubricated) that is what happens.
Or at least that was my problem.
 
Buy a .22 and learn to shoot with it. It will be a lot cheaper to shoot and you will actually get good. You are starting with too big a gun. When you were learning to drive a car did you start with a Semi? Probably not. Do you down hill ski? If so did you start on the biggest challenging hill there was?

Were there any times when the case failed to clear the gun, did the slide come forward against the empty case? If it did then this is what probably mangled the cases. If the case did not clear the gun properly or if the following round did not chamber properly then you are probably breaking your wrist. Many guns, and especially the 1911, requires you to have a firm solid hold of the gun for the proper operation. If your wrist is twisting due to the recoil then you will likely experience problems. It also contributes to a lack of accuracy.

Shoot a lower power gun first. Either that or get someone to provide you with lighter power target loads. It is easy to pull a trigger on a handgun. Anyone can shoot one. Shooting well takes a lot of work. There are a lot of individual things you have to do right and things you have to train yourself not to do.
 
Hey Guys -
Silverback - thanks for those links; when I actually shoot some groups I'll be able to use them ;)

Hicaliber - it's quite possible I didn't have enough lubrication on the slide - I had done a full strip and clean, and when I was putting oil on the gun, I sort of had a less is more feeling. I'll see about fixing that up.

Rudy - yeah, buy a .22, everybody says that :) Honestly, I don't expect to be a world class marksman right out of the gates. I am enjoying the experience tho :50cal: I don't mind spending the money on ammo - this is fun!

Regarding the function of the gun - there were no cases where the gun failed to chamber the next round, however there were a few times where the cartridges were ejected straight up into the air. I'm hoping that a more generous application of some lubrication to the gun will help with that.
 
My Tokarev does a similar thing with spent cases, although not nearly as bad. The case mouths always end up flat on one side. Based on the marks I found on the gun I determined that the ejected cases were flipping up and back contacting the top of the slide near the hammer, and thus being deformed by the impact. Your pistol might be doing something similar.
 
proc said:
Rudy - yeah, buy a .22, everybody says that :) Honestly, I don't expect to be a world class marksman right out of the gates. I am enjoying the experience tho
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The problem is that you are digging yourself deeper in a hole. The more you shoot the worse you will get. A lot of the problem is that you are reacting to the recoil and noise. Honestly those targets really suck considering it is only 10 yards.

If you are going to continue with full power load then there are a couple of things that you can do. Even if you start shooting reduced loads you will benefit from the following.

At home - Dry fire practice. Concentrate on pulling the trigger and try to not jerk the gun off target.

At the range - Mix dummy rounds in with the loaded ones. If you have a couple of mags then load both but with the dummys in different positions. Or get someone else to load them for you. You don't want to know when you have a live or dummy round when you pull the trigger. Train your body not to react to the gun going off.
 
Have a gunsmith check the 'rinco and while does that have him/her fit a match barrel bushing. Why? I had match barrel bushings fitted to my 'rincos and both shoot like a house on fire. Regards, Richard:D
 
Weekly range report -

Some improvement from last time. This particular target was 28 rounds at 10 yards.

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Another fellow at the range had a few magazines through the pistol and right away wondered if the front sight post was misaligned - slightly to the left. I tried to get some photos of it. It does look slightly off...:(

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See you next week :50cal:
 
If you holding you gun like your holding it in that picture that is half the problem.... place your thumb OVER the safety pointing towards your target... the other hand thumb should be placed along the slide (or just under it) pionting towards your target (don't be afraid to touch the slide with your thumb)... try that and your shooting may improve.
 
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