progressive press which one would you choose..??????
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Mick Jagger
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Depends on how many rounds you want to load if 50-100 a month I would go single stage press.
Also Handgun ammunition is preferable loaded on a progressive press. Precision rifle ammo is generally made on a single stage press.
Dont think you cant go wrong with either Hornady or Dillon. You could consider a Lee progressive as well, although I've heard somehow some more negative story's about Lee than Hornady and Dillon
I have a Dillon XL650 and couldn't be happier, I am saving now for a case feeder.
what youre intending to load for and how many rounds a week/month?
Also Handgun ammunition is preferable loaded on a progressive press. Precision rifle ammo is generally made on a single stage press.
Dont think you cant go wrong with either Hornady or Dillon. You could consider a Lee progressive as well, although I've heard somehow some more negative story's about Lee than Hornady and Dillon
I have a Dillon XL650 and couldn't be happier, I am saving now for a case feeder.
what youre intending to load for and how many rounds a week/month?
im just wondering what some guys are using and to see what they think of them . mayby later i might consider one ...... hound13
Mick Jagger
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- Red Deer, Alberta
Dillon XL650 has a life time no BS warranty.
Im unaware of Hornady's warranty.(might be lifetime no BS warranty as well)
the Dillon is good. but its more then the price of the press. add casefeeder, dies, primer tubes, strong mount, etc etc.
I have for every caliber a different toolhead with dies and powder dispenser , so i dont have to change dies for a caliber change.
captainmike
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I have a dillon XL650 for my hanguns caliber with quick change kit (9-.40-.45 -10mm -357mag) and also 223for my AR-15
but for target and lon range (223-300AAC blackout-& 308win) i prefer single stage
but for target and lon range (223-300AAC blackout-& 308win) i prefer single stage
I have the Hornady and I'm very happy with it.
Of course I'm the kind of guy who thinks the grass is always greener on the other side so I may buy a 650 to give it a whirl.
I'll give you the negatives of the Hornady and you can decide for yourself.
I'll give you the negatives I've heard of the Dillon but most Dillon owners swear that there are no negatives.
On the Hornady primer seating is finicky.
Hornady has revised the primer punches so that powder can no longer get jammed under them.
Some people are shimming the arbors due to different tolerances.
There is an active thread on this somewhere here.
This seems to help with case tilt.
Powder measure swaps. The powder measure needs to be swapped over to go from a pistol to a rifle rotor and vice versa.
This takes several minutes to do. If you are using powder through expanders you will need to buy separate case activated lower assemblies at $25.00 a pop. Add to that $20.00 for 5 bushings and you're up to $45 per caliber change and you still need to swap the powder measure over.
The case feeder for the Hornady is more expensive than the Dillon but the plates for small rifle, large rifle, small pistol, large pistol are twice the price for the Dillon.
One of the negatives of the Dillon 650 is that it will spit out a primer regardless if a case is present or not.
This means you must retrieve the errant primer.
The Hornady will only deliver a primer if there is a case present otherwise the primer will return to its position waiting for the next case.
The only thing I can say about the Hornady is that the case feeding could be a little better but it's not that bad with a few homemade mods found on the boards.
I don't regret getting the LNL and it has put out tens of thousands of rounds so far.
If I had one of each I could be totally objective.
Of course I'm the kind of guy who thinks the grass is always greener on the other side so I may buy a 650 to give it a whirl.
I'll give you the negatives of the Hornady and you can decide for yourself.
I'll give you the negatives I've heard of the Dillon but most Dillon owners swear that there are no negatives.
On the Hornady primer seating is finicky.
Hornady has revised the primer punches so that powder can no longer get jammed under them.
Some people are shimming the arbors due to different tolerances.
There is an active thread on this somewhere here.
This seems to help with case tilt.
Powder measure swaps. The powder measure needs to be swapped over to go from a pistol to a rifle rotor and vice versa.
This takes several minutes to do. If you are using powder through expanders you will need to buy separate case activated lower assemblies at $25.00 a pop. Add to that $20.00 for 5 bushings and you're up to $45 per caliber change and you still need to swap the powder measure over.
The case feeder for the Hornady is more expensive than the Dillon but the plates for small rifle, large rifle, small pistol, large pistol are twice the price for the Dillon.
One of the negatives of the Dillon 650 is that it will spit out a primer regardless if a case is present or not.
This means you must retrieve the errant primer.
The Hornady will only deliver a primer if there is a case present otherwise the primer will return to its position waiting for the next case.
The only thing I can say about the Hornady is that the case feeding could be a little better but it's not that bad with a few homemade mods found on the boards.
I don't regret getting the LNL and it has put out tens of thousands of rounds so far.
If I had one of each I could be totally objective.
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Dillon 650. I load 8 calibers with it (both pistol and rifle) and couldn't be happier. Buy the tool head/dies/powder measure for every caliber so that swapping one out for another takes less time that it did to type this...
I've had a Hornady LnL and currently have a Dillon 550 and 650.
I don't know where or why there is this perception that the LnL is cheaper than a 650.
There are some things that are less expensive, but it works out in the wash when you are all set up in your favourite caliber. It's the same thing with the set up times - it is all BS. They are comparable machines doing the same thing slightly differently.
Dillons have quirks -I'll not lie - but so too does the Hornady.
If you load ammo - you are going to be tinkering with equipment, regardless of how you get that done.
I don't know where or why there is this perception that the LnL is cheaper than a 650.
There are some things that are less expensive, but it works out in the wash when you are all set up in your favourite caliber. It's the same thing with the set up times - it is all BS. They are comparable machines doing the same thing slightly differently.
Dillons have quirks -I'll not lie - but so too does the Hornady.
If you load ammo - you are going to be tinkering with equipment, regardless of how you get that done.
a lot of good pointers thanks for sharing hound13
Mick Jagger
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- Red Deer, Alberta
As said the dillon 1050 is a beast of a machine. And if you shoot 223/5.56 a lot then it is maybe a good machine for you
